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@Speedrace
Drafter told me that the DP would end if a filibuster or gallis reached 6/6 votes. So Pie can't be either
Where did he tell you this?
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@Vader
SupaDudz - lean scum
I am perfectly ok with lynching Supa
Why does Supa lean scum? Why are you okay with lynching Supa based on a lean?
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@Vader
There's also a plethora of Speed jumping to large conclusions about the game within DP1, leading me to believe he has more insight than townies might know. He also seems to be accusatory, hypocritcal (calling me out for not overreading Lunatic when he did so himself and then proceeded to say the same thing)
You down to VTL Speed?
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@That1User
Much as I’m largely inclined to vote Speed in general, and especially so given this claim, I think we’re unlikely to get much out of him at this stage. Could push on him, but I’m not seeing much support for that. However, I am starting to see why others, particularly Danielle, are suspicious of Supa and we don’t have a claim from him. So, I’ll go in on that.
VTL SupaDudz
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@That1User
Why is it wrong for Elminster to wanna lynch Supa based on a read but you want to lynch Speed based on a read?
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@Vader
Unvote cuz I think Supa is at 5/6 now and I just want his claim atm. He should be at 4 now with my unvote.
Vote Count
Speed- 1/6 - That1User
Supa - 3/6 - ILikePie, Speed, whiteflame
VTNL- 2/6 - Lunatic, Elminster
24 hours remaining
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@drafterman
@Speedrace
All of the roles you mentioned would end the dayphase
Per the spreadsheet, one of the role options is Judas: "You win with the town. The first time you are lynched you will not die, but your alignment will change to win with the mafia."
@drafterman - If there is a Judas in the game, would the DP end with their lynch or would they just convert?
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@Danielle
Why is it wrong for Elminster to wanna lynch Supa based on a read but you want to lynch Speed based on a read?
You mean Speed? I don't want to lynch Speed solely because of a read, I want to test whiteflame's vanilla theory of pure vanilla not fitting the theme, I have reason to both believe and disbelieve Speed's pure vanilla claim. Want to prove if the vanilla claim is real and a distraction or if it's a fake vanilla claim.
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@whiteflame
Much as I’m largely inclined to vote Speed in general, and especially so given this claim, I think we’re unlikely to get much out of him at this stage. Could push on him, but I’m not seeing much support for that. However, I am starting to see why others, particularly Danielle, are suspicious of Supa and we don’t have a claim from him. So, I’ll go in on that.VTL SupaDudz
I have no problem with pressuring Supa here for a claim, the only way to get anything out of Speed and verify your vanilla theory is to VTL him
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@That1User
I think lynching Speed to test his vanilla claim seems like a waste. There might be other reasons to lynch Speed (we'll see) but that's not a good one. He could be town lying or not revealing everything about the nature of his role as town often does.
Right now I'm more curious to see what drafterman's answer is re: the Judas role, cuz if the day phase wouldn't end with a Judas conversion then I say we get Pie to 6/6 again just to be doubly sure about his Popular role and make sure he isn't Judas being converted to scum by that first lynch. Even so I'm not convinced a Popular role is necessarily town (since the role list doesn't say that) but I'd be willing to ignore it for now if we can at least verify the role. If Pie turns out to be Judas I'll sus Speed more. But no I am not down to lynch him based on claiming vanilla alone.
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@Danielle
@drafterman - If there is a Judas in the game, would the DP end with their lynch or would they just convert?
The DP would end in a NL.
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@Danielle
Right now I'm more curious to see what drafterman's answer is re: the Judas role, cuz if the day phase wouldn't end with a Judas conversion then I say we get Pie to 6/6 again just to be doubly sure about his Popular role and make sure he isn't Judas being converted to scum by that first lynch. Even so I'm not convinced a Popular role is necessarily town (since the role list doesn't say that) but I'd be willing to ignore it for now if we can at least verify the role. If Pie turns out to be Judas I'll sus Speed more. But no I am not down to lynch him based on claiming vanilla alone.
I'm down to role-test Pie again, that's priority, clearing or Judasing Pie has way more utility.
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@Danielle
cuz if the day phase wouldn't end with a Judas conversion then I say we get Pie to 6/6 again just to be doubly sure about his Popular role and make sure he isn't Judas being converted to scum by that first lynch.
The DP would end in a NL.
Do we risk it?
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@That1User
What do you mean "do we risk it?" The mod just confirmed that if there were a Judas in the game, upon being lynched the day phase would have ended (so Pie wouldn't have died but the day phase would be over). Since the DP progressed we know Pie is Popular. I'm not convinced he's a Popular townie but I'm sure his role claim is valid and don't see the need to dwell on it for now.
Since Supa only has 3/6 votes I'm comfortable vtl Supa to bring him to 4 votes and get a claim.
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@That1User
Based on that response from drafterman, I don’t think it’s worth trying. That virtually guarantees that Pie is popular since that appears to be the only role one could have that would allow you to reach 6/6 without resulting in a lynch or NL scenario.
Vote Count
Speed- 1/6 - That1User
Supa - 4/6 - ILikePie, Speed, whiteflamem Danielle
VTNL- 2/6 - Lunatic, Elminster
I'm really not sure what to do, although I do agree we should pressure Supa for a claim,
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@Crocodile
I do agree we should pressure Supa for a claim
Why is that?
I am catching up to a fuck ton of votes and a scum lean for some reason. will respond to pings first
It would be beneficial to town if he voted so we can know more about his role and then decide if he's scum or not
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@Crocodile
Why Supa?
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@Danielle
The mod just confirmed that if there were a Judas in the game, upon being lynched the day phase would have ended (so Pie wouldn't have died but the day phase would be over). Since the DP progressed we know Pie is Popular.
Ik this, mainly confused about draftermod never confirming the 6/6 Pie vote in his vote tally even though he got 6/6 (I think). Pie is most likely Popular since the DP didn't end, Idk if this counts or not because it wasn't officially recorded as a vote, being immediately retracted by Luna before the official tally was made.
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@whiteflame
Based on that response from drafterman, I don’t think it’s worth trying. That virtually guarantees that Pie is popular since that appears to be the only role one could have that would allow you to reach 6/6 without resulting in a lynch or NL scenario.
My concern is the same as what I replied to Danielle, Luna voted to twice to 6/6 and unvoted twice before draftermod confirmed the official vote tally in Page 9, so I'm uncertain that Luna's vote counted or not
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@Danielle
@whiteflame
@221, @223, @225 specifically
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@drafterman
@That1User
The mod did confirm the 6/6 vote, albeit with a post that was quickly changed to reflect the change in the votes. We can confirm with him, though.
@drafterman, can you confirm that a 6/6 vote was registered for iLikePie?
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@drafterman
If 6/6 is reached, and you don't officially count the lynch vote tally as mod, does it count as a lynch vote?
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@whiteflame
Wow we were thinking the same thing lmao
We still waiting for Supa to claim?
I process all bolded vote changes in a post in the order that they appear in the post (top-down, left-right).
ILikePie received his 6th vote (by Lunatic) here:
Which was immediately removed (and therefore wouldn't have shown up in a vote count)
He was put back to 6/6 here:
Which was then removed here (before I posted a new Vote Count):
So we did test pie right?
Also Danielle, I want to get Supa to claim cuz i noticed some people had slight fos on him but i may be wrong.
i just took that from supa's post itself