Paranoia Mafia - Day 1

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Drafter told me that the DP would end if a filibuster or gallis reached 6/6 votes. So Pie can't be either
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Pure vanilla just doesn't fit the theme. Maybe there are one or two among us just because there usually are a few vanilla players in each mafia game, but I'd say that's the least believable role under this theme. It doesn't inspire any paranoia beyond just making us paranoid about what you could be. Perhaps that's the aim, but I doubt it would be that simple.
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So in the case of a filibuster or gallis, it would end even if no one was actually lynched? That's a bit odd, but OK. Appreciate narrowing it down. That just leaves lynchproof and popular.
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We already know that lynchproof would end the DP (and feel free to ask if you're unsure), so it can only be popular. From there you can ask if he's popular scum but I think it's fair to say he's not, at least for now

Pure vanilla just doesn't fit the theme.
I obv agree that it's not ALL vanillas but we can definitely have some
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Meaning icecream non modified, not all icecream.
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I don't need to check with something that quickly verifiable. I'll accept what you're saying, and I already said earlier that I think Pie is town.

I'm not saying that it's impossible for there to be any vanillas, I'm just saying that, unlike with other games of mafia, with this theme, I don't automatically assume there are any. I find the claim harder to believe here. Perhaps I'm wrong, but the claim is impossible to challenge, so it would be suspicious regardless.
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Meaning regular vanillas, not all vanillas? I don't follow
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Gotchu
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pure icecream = icecream non modified
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Whiteflame feeling innocent behaviorally.
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Elminster - null
ILikePie5 - town
Whiteflame - town
Lunatic - town
That1User - null
SupaDudz - lean scum
Crocodile- null
Danielle - null
GreyParrot - town



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I am perfectly ok with lynching Supa
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I'm not saying that it's impossible for there to be any vanillas, I'm just saying that, unlike with other games of mafia, with this theme, I don't automatically assume there are any. I find the claim harder to believe here. Perhaps I'm wrong, but the claim is impossible to challenge, so it would be suspicious regardless
This fits the paranoia theme, being paranoid of vanilla claims

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I disagree with no lynching. For the same reason I will always bring up, you lynch on 9
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nm im retarted and I cant count

vtnl
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just leaving that there (not intended to end the dayphase already)

but this is the best option with 10
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@That1User
Maybe so, but that's basically true of any claim. As long as it's either not verifiable or difficult to verify, it's paranoia inducing.
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I am catching up to a fuck ton of votes and a scum lean for some reason. will respond to pings first
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Just started catching up but atm right now no from about page 6
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I fucking knew Elim was Mikal and I had the biggest gut read on it too
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So Pie fucking claimed popular and we didn't confirm it yet. Wtf. 
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It's a waste of time to argue what Luna is saying because of the setup the game plays in general and how these roles work from my experience, they are town based roles. It seems no point to try to decipher wtf he is saying because as long as he knows what not to say, why the fuck should town worry
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So were gonna hop on another Supa wagon because he said it was detracting. I know I didn't say before but I'm on break and was done looking at a screen

This is probs a town role with the function it has in general and how I've played with it.  That's why I said it's detracting because if Lunatic knows what not to say, why does it concern us. If we are confused, he can elaborate
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Pie is town because he's active when he's a power role and since he sorta got confirmed this means he's town
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Biggest scum read is Speed

Biggest things I don't like

You guys are reading way too much into this lol, that's exactly what Drafter wanted you to do
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Why Pie over someone who is essentially confirmed scum?
@170

There's also a plethora of Speed jumping to large conclusions about the game within DP1, leading me to believe he has more insight than townies might know. He also seems to be accusatory, hypocritcal (calling me out for not overreading Lunatic when he did so himself and then proceeded to say the same thing)
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FoS on Croc. Really hasn't made much contribution and seems to be lurking a lot versus trying to actively converse in chat
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*facepalm* supa...

Speedrace, someone, help please. 

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i dont get the facepalm and anything goin on and what im missing. im just gonna go about my reads until someone explains the facepalm cuz its 1:35am and i have no clue
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Definitely down to get a role claim from Supa. Unvote and VTL Supa. 


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@whiteflame
Pure vanilla just doesn't fit the theme. Maybe there are one or two among us just because there usually are a few vanilla players in each mafia game, but I'd say that's the least believable role under this theme. It doesn't inspire any paranoia beyond just making us paranoid about what you could be. Perhaps that's the aim, but I doubt it would be that simple.
I'm inclined to believe there is pure vanilla and vanilla claims are a red herring, however there is reason to believe Speed is fakeclaiming,
Drafter told me that the DP would end if a filibuster or gallis reached 6/6 votes
I'm willing to put your vanilla theory to the test
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VTL Speed