Presently, but life can't sustain itself that way on its own. There needs to be the reproduction of life to continue that way of sustaining. It isn't by feeding on dead things then that life sustains itself, but by reproduction.
To that end, I ought to refrain from murdering someone.
Or do we see the animal kingdom punishing for acts we would consider undoubtedly virtuous?
...without justification or valid excuse,
They don't, because they never made a choice. You took their choice, they didn't take yours. When you murder, only one party has made a choice.
Does not negate the objective fact you took another beings will from them.
Presently, but life can't sustain itself that way on its own. There needs to be the reproduction of life to continue that way of sustaining. It isn't by feeding on dead things then that life sustains itself, but by reproduction.Please explain how "reproduction" doesn't require dead things.
Or do we see the animal kingdom punishing for acts we would consider undoubtedly virtuous?A mother lion that tries to protect her cubs from a new pride leader will be attacked by the pride leader (de facto king).
SubjectivismAccording to subjectivism, to say that something is wrong is to claim that you personally disapprove of it. The problems with this is that murders would technically be justified as they believed what they did was right.
Emotivism (My personal go-to)According to emotivism, to say something is wrong is not to make a claim at all. It is simply express personal disapproval. The problem with this is that it essentially eradicates the idea of morality as a whole.
Yes, but why is it wrong? Why is killing a homo sapien wrong as opposed to killing a pigeon, which is right.
That “murder” is wrong is a circular proposition. “Murder” is a crime under legal systems; A particular type of homicide which a society has found to be wrong and thus outlawed. The question may as well be “Why is wrongful homicide wrong?” Well, you are going to have to be a bit more specific and get in to the particular types of homicides and defenses to get the answers I think you really want.
Or do we see the animal kingdom punishing for acts we would consider undoubtedly virtuous?A mother lion that tries to protect her cubs from a new pride leader will be attacked by the pride leader (de facto king).If one can call this a punishment, then it is a different type. The new pride leader isn't attacking to knock the mother's instinct to protect her offspring out of her. I doubt that's his plan, and if it is, he fails.
Presently, but life can't sustain itself that way on its own. There needs to be the reproduction of life to continue that way of sustaining. It isn't by feeding on dead things then that life sustains itself, but by reproduction.Please explain how "reproduction" doesn't require dead things.We do not reproduce so that we can kill, we kill so that we can reproduce. Even a just murder doesn't necessitate it becoming good, because life should always hope to beget life and not take it. I would say nature herself upholds this aspiration and avoidance. Most animals are known to not kill more than needed.
SubjectivismAccording to subjectivism, to say that something is wrong is to claim that you personally disapprove of it. The problems with this is that murders would technically be justified as they believed what they did was right.Inter-subjectivismAccording to inter-subjectivism, to say something is wrong is to claim your community disapproves of it. The problem with this is that communities may be wrong, as the Roman Catholics endorsed slavery, an unacceptable practice in todays world.Emotivism (My personal go-to)According to emotivism, to say something is wrong is not to make a claim at all. It is simply express personal disapproval. The problem with this is that it essentially eradicates the idea of morality as a whole.ReligionPersonally, I view this standpoint un-kindly, as it simply just postpones the mystery and is the "lazy way out" of what would be a fruitful discussion.
I have one question. Are things wrong because they are wrong, or are they wrong because God says they are wrong.
When you may say with sincerity that something is wrong, you have already acknowledged that something else is right.
35 days later
Because it hurts people.
Now there's a can of selectively moral worms that's always open.
I think that taking someone's life with their consent is generally, also regarded as wrong.....Notwithstanding extreme situations of legally assisted euthanasia, and socially approved armed conflict...... To name but two instances of selective morality....Abortion being a third of course....Now there's a can of selectively moral worms that's always open
