The Democrats are going to take the wrong lessons from this election (again)

But you aren't satisfied with the truth?

No one cares hypocrite.

You seem to be the one wailing and crying that the courts should be allowed to precede.

After all, it's not my money and time that will be wasted.

Sounds like nonsense to me.

The reality is he has won the most electoral votes.

Calling him anything but the president elect is delusion.

Reality:  Yep and they got rid of Trump.

I think that you are are referring to the Old White Guard, who are slowly dying out...More slowly in the U.S. than here in the U.K. perhaps

I would suggest that species evolution is unstoppable, and it's probably going to be  slightly darker and more egalitarian than what you are currently used to.

And don't forget I'm neither blue nor red nor orange or green....I just sit comfortably on the fence and tell things as I see them.

Mr.Trump is great

That is what the "it" is in my comment.

Except apparently you.

Because I'm a non-fascist American who believes in the rule of law through a legal system set up for exactly this purpose.

No, in your system, people must first fit your politics to be worthy of due process. Americans reject your system and are willing to pay for a democratic one.

I know. Google, "people arrested for vote fraud in 2020" and you will see a lot more "nonsense". Well you won't see it as you have your liberal reality blinders on, but it'll be there anyway.

Then why do we need elections certified? Are you aware we are talking about the American system here?

Biden then wasted time and money. He should have just called himself the president elect on Nov 4th. Same difference if certification is irrelevant.

You seem to support the hijacking of democracy. That's pretty fascist to me.

No, in my system.... 

Did you happen to google "evidence for widespread voter fraud us 2020" while you were at it?

...thinking that [certification] will materially change the fact that Biden is president elect in this particular case is delusion.

Time is needed to fully see how the votes pan out.

I believe the one who called for vote counting to stop in battleground states...

...and declared himself the winner on the 4th was actually Trump. Perhaps you should look into that.

I wasn't referring to votes....I was referring to Americans who can think for themselves.

And you still want to believe that the election was rigged and that your grey haired idol will continue to entertain the rest of us for another four years.

We're all fed information, it's the nature of the beasts

Right. You're the one denying due process, pre-judging people, and refusing access to courts but I'm fascist. OK.

All I can say is thank God America isn't on your fascist system. No wonder you hate Trump. He is as antifascist as one can get.

The certification in MI was rescinded. Do you know why? Hispanics in FL voted overwhelmingly  for Trump. Do you know why? Kavenaugh was innocent. Do you know why?

I said nothing about changing the result. I said election results are not official until certification. That is a fact that doesn't change because Biden calls himself president-elect.

Any honest person would call for a fraudulent vote to stop. That is why our laws allows for it. And the court did find that the state violated the law, and fake votes were switched back to Trump.

Yet Trump had nothing to do with the buggy dominion software glitches, or the criminal USPS employees who threw out votes, or the county officials who are now refusing to certify the fake results.

The supreme court is going to hear this case. Dust off your liberal argument that conservative justices will vote for Trump. (We know you don't think that liberal judges can be biased.)

Nothing you say here now will change the present facts.

*Biden is not the president-elect.

*Elections are not called by private news companies

*Due process is required by American law.

Trump is within his legal rights and has done nothing wrong. The only ones crying are you liberals.

...despite being unable to provide evidence

Lets stick to reality

Calling Biden president elect does not require certification. 

A dishonest person would call for a vote to stop, despite having no evidence. Which is what happened here.

I have heard no condemnation of this action. 

I'm waiting, you hack.

Provide evidence to whom? The news media? You? Evidence is presented to courts, not random liberals. None-the-less, the allegations are all over the news, that you chose to be obtuse about them does not make them disappear.

Realty is the law that says no one has won till the election is officially called. That is why the Time magazine cover calling Hillery Madam President was a joke. Mass media do not determine presidents.

Lol! Which is why about a thousand people on twitter are currently calling themselves "president-elect". But BEING president-elect certainly does require certification. At least for now in non-fascist America.

I'll tell President to submit his evidence to you post haste. And alert the legally ignorant court that you have judged the "evidence" nonexistent. The police will have to release all those it arrested for voter fraud, and the courts that have barred vote without signatures have to rescind those decisions.

Then you haven't been watching the fake news media. They have been condemning Trump for 4 years!

No need to be angry BLM. If you are right, the courts will throw out Trumps claim AFTER listening to it. (Unlike fascists who want it thrown out without due process) And no one needs to condemn legal actions by Trump, and much less to you.

Trump thinks some illegality went on in the election, it is his legal right to challenge the results in court. In 2,000 it took 35 days. Settle down and get your panties out of a wad. Dart is not a good place to practise BLM thuggery of assaulting people because they hold a different political opinion.

I don't think that anyone is "Great"......That's the difference between you and I. - Z-man

Being president elect simply requires an obvious winner in the recent election. There is an obvious winner. It's not Trump.

No need. 

His suits are getting dropped one by one, which speaks to what evidence he has. Or rather what evidence he hasn't.

You claim that candidates have not won until the election is officially is called.

You claim that due process should be followed.

Declaring himself the winner and asking that vote counting should be halted violates both of those principals.

Such people have no credibility and require evidence to support their claims.

I am waiting to hear your condemnation, you hack.

I asked you to whom should thus evidence be presented. Trump is in court. The process cannot be called bogus till a court has ruled. The election cannot be over till it has been certified. Kavenaugh is not guilty till he has been convicted in a court of law. I see a pattern with you Democrats. You want to rule on things by your emotions. This is why a BLM thug in the street feels free to assault another person, he has done exactly what you're doing here, made himself judge, jury, and executioner in one fell swoop. Conservatives want the rule of law and due process. We will NEVER submit to fascism.

And yet the election has not been certified? No worries, reality has a way of correcting delusion. 

>>snicker<< This is like that other liberal gem, "Women must be believed when they allege rape!" It's "obvious" my candidate won so, he's president! It just needs to be "obvious". Lol.

None of Trump's cases have been dropped. That is just the fake news media calling the cases of private individuals, " Trump cases". That's why you can't name a single case of Trump that has been dropped.

Then why are there provisions in the law for it?

Luckily for Trump's team, your opinion of their credibility is irrelevant. Sit down and let the man have his day in court.

You will wait a very long time to hear me condemn something good and legal. While you wait, look up the several Governors who have decided that they will not certify their state's results till the lawsuits have all been resolved.

It's quite simple really. Here let me give you an analogy. While Trump may not have been certified as an idiot, and while he may claim he is very very smart, it is quite quite clear he is not.

It's a shame vote counts aren't dismissed quite so easily like you seem to think they are

Which provisions allow for a president to halt vote counting and declare himself the victor? I wasn't aware this was cuba.

Unluckily for Trump's team, his claims of voter fraud have no credibility

Nice try, fascist sympathizer.

In my country "idiot" is not an electable office. But I'm beginning to understand better why you post what you do. Did you win? Because its clear you did win.

I want the votes counted. But just the valid ones, not the "obvious" ones.

He did not halt the vote count. A president in America cannot half the count. But he can petition the court to halt the vote counting process if he believes illegalities have taken place. In your country, is a president able to halt a vote count?

I'm sure he will be broken hearted to hear that you have ruled against his suit.

I don't sympathize with you at all. And when you antifa/BLM guys try this on me in RL, you do it only once.

Which provisions allow for the president to halt the vote count?

Rather when the courts have ruled against his suits

I wouldn't want to be sympathized with by a fascist sympathizer. That sounds quite horrible.

He did not halt the vote count, he is alleging illegalities in the vote count. A president in America cannot half the count. But he can petition the court to halt the vote counting process if he believes illegalities have taken place. In your country, is a president able to halt a vote count?

Why do we need a court when you have already judged his case bogus?

Lol. The BLM SJW plays the "racist card". What race am I against snowflake?

I wouldn't want to be sympathized with by a fascist sympathizer. That sounds quite horrible.

Race? Where