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@Mikal
Only way Luna isn't town is if Danielle is blatantly lying to town. Either that or he has some weird role like he converts to scum DP2 or something
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@Lunatic
I don't read it as that
1) I think he actually got the role and is just stupid
2) or he is scum and trying to farm cred and is equally as stupid.
Which of those 2 depends on how bad of a player he is.
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@Speedrace
Or he has a role that allows scum to post the op
But anyway I'm pretty sure this is role madness AND as Magic pointed out there are anti-town roles
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@Mikal
How are you confirmed other than the first letters in the post ?I mentioned that
If the mod is directly contradicting her riddles, that is bastard modding. That said I am not entirely opposed to you bringing up the idea I am not town confirmed if it makes mafia rethink killing me np1 lol
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@Mikal
From Danielle: "Each day phase will include at least one public riddle and/or clue by the mod."
By the mod, so not scum
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@Speedrace
Magic is scum so she would probably have that knowledge so it makes sense
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@Mikal
How would scum know there are anti-town roles
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@Speedrace
@Mikal
No talking about the game outside the game. No copy and pasting role PMs; however, I have manipulated the PMs so as to avoid that type of analysis about how I structured them (ahem Mikal).
Whether or not it is true, I will be ignoring any logic about a conversation I was not a part of, not only because that logic violates the standards of the game, but because I was not privy to that conversation and mikal could easily be lying.
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@Lunatic
Whether or not it is true, I will be ignoring any logic about a conversation I was not a part of, not only because that logic violates the standards of the game, but because I was not privy to that conversation and mikal could easily be lying.
What is this in response to?
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@Speedrace
Scum would probably be able to analyze what roles they have, the utility they have , and possible fake claims to tell what is in the game.
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@Mikal
I don't read it as that1) I think he actually got the role and is just stupid2) or he is scum and trying to farm cred and is equally as stupid.Which of those 2 depends on how bad of a player he is.
3. He is town and not stupid, has some big brain plan with it
4. He is 1x lynchproof scum
5. He is hunter
6. He is saulus
7. He is judas
There are a bunch of possibilities not including the one he is trolling us
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@Speedrace
What is this in response to?
The magic being scum confirmed part
I'm not talking about it with someone outside the game. I'm talking about a read based on an outside conversation. Entirely different. That rule states I can't message you on discord and ask who you think scum is. Not that I can't meta the mod for being a drunkard
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@oromagi
Bummer. I think the moderation has gotten a bit stricter
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@Mikal
I'm not talking about it with someone outside the game. I'm talking about a read based on an outside conversation. Entirely different. That rule states I can't message you on discord and ask who you think scum is. Not that I can't meta the mod for being a drunkard
I am not accusing you of rule breaking, just saying following that logic harms the integrity of the game. It's the same thing we always talk about when this logic is used in live mafia games. Just because it is allowed, doesn't mean it's right to pursue it lol. That and the bigger issue is I have no way of knowing if this conversation actually happened. If you were scum you would have incentive to lie about this, and when magic mislynched pass it off as mis-understanding the mod. It's a slippery slope I don't want to play on
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@Mikal
Welcome to the game.
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@Lunatic
I am not accusing you of rule breaking, just saying following that logic harms the integrity of the game. It's the same thing we always talk about when this logic is used in live mafia games. Just because it is allowed, doesn't mean it's right to pursue it lol. That and the bigger issue is I have no way of knowing if this conversation actually happened. If you were scum you would have incentive to lie about this, and when magic mislynched pass it off as mis-understanding the mod. It's a slippery slope I don't want to play on
+1. I'm not a fan of outside the game analysis. Even if it's valid, it seems to violate the spirit of the game.
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@Mikal
It is ridiculous to think Danielle would reveal scum to a player in the game and undermine the legitimacy of the game in that way. And I'll tell you right now if she had done so, and I was scum I would quit the game on principle to make her reset.
Luna is def Town. Again, it would be incredible bastard modding for the mod to tell town (the uninformed team) a lie, that they would have every reason to rely on as truth.
I think your points on Pie are good. But what do you propose to test the veracity of Pie's claim, which is the only other helpful information we have for hunting scum? Are you proposing not testing it at all?
Yeah I definitely think magic would have rage quit if she was actually scum
I'm back. I had to spend most of the day helping to fix my nephew's computer when he spilled water into it.
Catching up
Softclaiming that my role has post-death utility
Since there are likely anti-town roles and I suspect that a riddle theme game will have some trickery and shenanigans, I think everyone should respond by the end of the DP with who they would target in the NP if they had a role.
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@Vader
Softclaiming that my role has post-death utility
We must define "soft" differently.
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@LikeMagic
Well it isn't a full role claim. Maybe soft isn't the right word. Maybe, like, tootsie roll type soft. Easy to brake but not as easy as some things
Lunatic Mikal and Magic are all town. I don't think Danielle will purposefully out scum in this game and Mikal doing a meta read on that poem and jumping to a scum read is town behavior
Also Pie to me is more town than he is scum
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@Vader
Are we lynching pie for claim?
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@LikeMagic
Since there are likely anti-town roles and I suspect that a riddle theme game will have some trickery and shenanigans, I think everyone should respond by the end of the DP with who they would target in the NP if they had a role.
Hmm I don't think so lol. It will tell mafia who to target, that's horrible logic, and townies are more likely to lie with this anyway. I know I would if I had a role
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@Greyparrot
I don't think it would be unreasonable