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well nobodys counter claimed him yet 


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well nobodys counter claimed him yet 

The whole point of a fake claim being provided is that no one in town has it. 
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The whole point of a fake claim being provided is that no one in town has it. 
a game with no cop?
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i would say i outted him at all. it was a pretty easy read to make lmao 

Like I said to BearMan:

"This is the equivalent of "We decided to cancel the election and make Biden president, the polls said he was ahead anyway."

I would say there are plenty of instances of mafia missing stuff like that out of sheer oversight. It does not follow that because you predicted they would see it anyway, that it would be a good idea to expose him."

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Why not? it's been done before, and with lunatic, anything is possible. 
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Like I said to BearMan:
the chances of scum realizing the claim ( especially cuz oro is known to do things like this ) is more likely than scum forgetting this 

considering that everyones been in games with oro before the chances of scum not reading into the L pic which is a popular anime is hella low 
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Why not? it's been done before, and with lunatic, anything is possible. 
its possible but we'd need to know about the other roles in the game before we can make a decision like that 


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you just restated the exact same point with no refutation to my central thesis. Let me ask you again, WHY did you expose Oro?
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its possible but we'd need to know about the other roles in the game before we can make a decision like that 

Well first we need Oro to claim. And to do that, we need pressure. 
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WHY did you expose Oro?
it was an obvious i wouldnt even call it exposing 
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But why did you do it?
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from what ive read so far theres only 2 votes on oro so ill VTL oro to put him at 3 

that being said dont hammer cuz we need his full claim first
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But why did you do it?
anyone who hasnt seen deathnote 

like u said it could also be a scum read for him 
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We didn't establish that until way later with Danielle. And you definitely didn't interpret it immediately as a scum tell. You saw it as town and said it anyway. Why?
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We didn't establish that until way later with Danielle
never said it established the scum read im just saying its a hint that could lead to something which it did
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So you're saying you had no clue if it was a town or scum read, and just wanted to share just in case we saw something important?
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You saw it as town and said it anyway. Why?
already said. anyone who hasnt seen deathnote and just cuz i thought it could lead somewhere which it did 
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So you're saying you had no clue if it was a town or scum read, and just wanted to share just in case we saw something important?
yeah basically 
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Ok. That's all you had to say from the beginning lol. I just wanted a direct answer. 
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please full claim 
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As far as reads, so far I’ve skimmed up to page 6 or so. From what I’ve gathered  I just think the tunneling of inactivity on DP1 is kind of pathetic. Nothing says “I’m a weak ass little mafia player with nothing  to contribute” than harping on a player who hasn’t even signed on yet. Do better. There is a criteria for tunneling inactivity and I don’t think I meet it - everyone knows that once I’m AWARE the game is on, I am active. 
Man, I love Danielle haha
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He would have no way of knowing some niche character like L unless that was his role.
Is L not the second most important character in Death Note? Maybe 3rd? Regardless, he's one of the most important characters in one of the most popular anime out there. Like after Naruto and Dragon Ball I'd say that Death Note is probably the most popular, no? This is all to say I would argue that he isn't some niche character. I feel like it'd be the equivalent of like Star Lord in Avengers or something.
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Danielle and Speed are town, which is good
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For someone that has self-admittedly only seen hxH and AoT? yeah it's niche. American audiences have a hard time recognizing Japanese characters if they're not familiar with the anime world. 
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Man, I love Danielle haha
I was literally about to say this too xD Danielle knows what's up
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Oro soft claims in some capacity in every single game he plays so I don't try to think about it too much unless he actually claims.
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@skittlez09
idk i think this is town oro just cuz counter claiming a cop is a pretty ballsy move for mafia 
If we believe that he's mafia and changed his PFP for the sake of a soft claim he would have plenty of ways out of having to cc a cop. He could claim to be any sort of investigative role (cop, tracker, watcher, role cop, etc) or just say he switched it for no reason (that's what I did, I just like Death Note and since Oro was L I went with another character instead)

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I think Oro is smart enough to do basic Anime research
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We're trying to get him to hard claim.
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I know and if he does that's cool but I don't scum read him at all