BAMF Mafia - Day Phase 1

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@oromagi
TUF's claim is at least watchable.  His demeanor, while anti-town, is not necessarily indicative.  His demands for ROLES is profoundly scummy and should be ignored by TOWN.

However, I am not adverse to more, even mass character claims, particularly since TUF seems to want to skip them.

When I think of town power roles, the two biggest that come to mind are doctor, and cop. Jailkeeper =/= semi anti town doctor. Both main power roles are out, there is literally no reason not to mass claim. Turn mafia's POE into TOWN's POE. Croc forced us into this postion, so we turn it into a positive.
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@Speedrace
If you thought Oro was Nick Fury, you didn't think for one second that he might possibly have a power role?
Not when I know I am a town's protective role and the cop is already outted. This is a nine plaeyr game, so balance isn't going to be too crazy, and we already have a vanilla claim out. My need to hunt scum outweighs my worry for outting some potential dumb watcher or tracker, and if he's anything less than that I care even less.
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@oromagi
However, I am not adverse to more, even mass character claims, particularly since TUF seems to want to skip them.
Nope, I want both characters and roles, don't twist my intentions lol. Makes no sense I would be asking for just roles. I am asking you specifically for your role since you've already character claimed.
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Instantly? One, I scum read you before you claimed and two, you can't prove your claim at all.
You never explained you scum read on me, thus I am left to assume it's omgus. And I can 100% prove my claim why wouldn't I be able to lol?
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@Lunatic
You never explained you scum read on me, thus I am left to assume it's omgus. And I can 100% prove my claim why wouldn't I be able to lol?
You scum read Oro for "having insider info" when it's clear why he knew what he knew, want to out all roles, tried to out someone you KNEW probably had a power role, and claimed a role usually claimed by scum. And you can just waive the kill like you did in live mafia :|
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You scum read Oro for "having insider info" when it's clear why he knew what he knew, want to out all roles, tried to out someone you KNEW probably had a power role, and claimed a role usually claimed by scum. And you can just waive the kill like you did in live mafia :|
If you are scum, what you are trying to do here is clever however poorly executed. Assuming I would waive the jailkeep suggests that you have some role to counter jailkeep, maybe a roleblock of your own so if I say I was roleblocked you can be like "see look told you he would just waive it and claim to protect someone". Btw if I waive it that would only be sus in a lylo situation. Since if I do that before all it would result in is a 1 v 1 for town and mafia which ultimately benefits the town. No as I stated before, the only motive someone would have to lynch me today before I can prove myself is id they were mafia and know I'm not lying lol. Because now scum has to deal with deciding to night kill, block me (if they have one) and or kill croc.
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@Speedrace
You scum read Oro for "having insider info" when it's clear why he knew what he knew, want to out all roles, tried to out someone you KNEW probably had a power role, and claimed a role usually claimed by scum. And you can just waive the kill like you did in live mafia :|
I scum read oro for the wierd set up of his poems which could potentially be softing 3 different characters either of which makes the other two lines look wierd af and random. 
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@Lunatic
If you are scum, what you are trying to do here is clever however poorly executed. Assuming I would waive the jailkeep suggests that you have some role to counter jailkeep, maybe a roleblock of your own so if I say I was roleblocked you can be like "see look told you he would just waive it and claim to protect someone". Btw if I waive it that would only be sus in a lylo situation. Since if I do that before all it would result in is a 1 v 1 for town and mafia which ultimately benefits the town. No as I stated before, the only motive someone would have to lynch me today before I can prove myself is id they were mafia and know I'm not lying lol. Because now scum has to deal with deciding to night kill, block me (if they have one) and or kill croc.
I said you would waive the NK, not the jailkeep lol. And assuming this is literally me looking at your past behavior in mafia games. I as town have no way to know whether you actually jailkeep someone. You can't confirm yourself.
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@Speedrace
I said you would waive the NK, not the jailkeep lol. And assuming this is literally me looking at your past behavior in mafia games. I as town have no way to know whether you actually jailkeep someone. You can't confirm yourself.
How often are you assuming there isn't a protection role in mafia? You can't ignore that. If you think I am fake claiming that's a huge risk that I won't be CC'ed or that my results won't end up in a 1 v 1 that result in my inevitable town gain. Not to mention the possibility of being caught lying against other trackers and wacthers which is LITERALLY what happened in that live mafia game that you referenced where I should have been lynched. Literally all you have to do is be smarter than the town in that game to win, there was two big points that should have resulted in my death in that game that town neglected to look into. That is much easier to do as scum in a time limited live mafia game then a full fledged forum game.
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Broh how did u do the half-line quotation block thing
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Broh how did u do the half-line quotation block thing
Well it was an accident, trying to qoute speed on my phone, and it was too much of a pain in the butt to erase so I left it 
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@Lunatic
How often are you assuming there isn't a protection role in mafia? You can't ignore that. If you think I am fake claiming that's a huge risk that I won't be CC'ed or that my results won't end up in a 1 v 1 that result in my inevitable town gain. Not to mention the possibility of being caught lying against other trackers and wacthers which is LITERALLY what happened in that live mafia game that you referenced where I should have been lynched. Literally all you have to do is be smarter than the town in that game to win, there was two big points that should have resulted in my death in that game that town neglected to look into. That is much easier to do as scum in a time limited live mafia game then a full fledged forum game.
If you're a roleblocker then you're not gonna get caught lying lol. You "LITERALLY" roleblocked Max and town "LITERALLY" believed you jailkept him lol. There might be another protective role but I don't think that confirms you as town or scum.
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Broh how did u do the half-line quotation block thing
lol
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I like how that's the first thing you notice

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Danielle - 2/5 - skittlez, intelligence
Oro - 1/5 - Lunatic
Lunatic - 2/5 - oro, speed

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@Speedrace
Again you ignored the part about "how often aren't there protective roles". You can go out on a limb and try making an argument that mod provided us that as info, but that is assuming a lot to push your "roleblock" narrative. 

If you're a roleblocker then you're not gonna get caught lying lol. You "LITERALLY" roleblocked Max and town "LITERALLY" believed you jailkept him lol. There might be another protective role but I don't think that confirms you as town or scum.
I never said me roleblocking someone is proof that I am a jailkeeper though, just that I can prove my role. This same issue would have come up regardless of when I claimed anyway, which is another reason I don't care about claiming, it seems better used to narrow down scum with POE now that the cop is out anyway. If your voting me because you think I am a roleblocker and just dismissing that there could ever be a real Lunatic Jailkeeper again because he fake claimed it in one live mafia game, then you are being pretty ridiculous. 
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@Lunatic
I never said me roleblocking someone is proof that I am a jailkeeper though, just that I can prove my role. This same issue would have come up regardless of when I claimed anyway, which is another reason I don't care about claiming, it seems better used to narrow down scum with POE now that the cop is out anyway. If your voting me because you think I am a roleblocker and just dismissing that there could ever be a real Lunatic Jailkeeper again because he fake claimed it in one live mafia game, then you are being pretty ridiculous. 
I already told you that there are more reasons than just that that I'm voting you but ok. Anyway it's useless to try to convince you that you're scum lol
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I already told you that there are more reasons than just that that I'm voting you but ok. Anyway it's useless to try to convince you that you're scum lol
You probably couldn't convince me I am scum when I know I am town yes, but if you end up convincing anyone I'd be equally surprised. Your case amounts to "TUF is aggressively pushing for claims" (which was well substantied why and not responded to), and conjecture that I am a roleblocker and there is no protective role in the game. I mean there are a lot of noobs in the game so I guess maybe I shouldn't be surprised if any of them are convinced of that weak @ss case. I guess I'd be most surprised if you were town and ended up pushing all that. Especially after Naruto. 
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Guys I'm not going to be able to post anything substantial until tomorrow. College stuff.
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look up^
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Guys I'm not going to be able to post anything substantial until tomorrow. College stuff.
That sucks. Day phase ends tomorrow.
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@Danielle
I know you've got a million pings, but here's hoping this one brings you into the game lol. could use more input with 24 hours left.
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@Mharman
I feel you, I might have to stop playing altogether in a few weeks when classes start. Get those A's
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@Danielle
UNVOTE

VTL Danielle

Hasn't Danielle been doing mafia for a very long time?  It sucks (if TOWN) that we aren't benefiting from that long experience.

No change in sus on TUF should be inferred.
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Danielle - 3/5 - skittlez, intelligence, oro
Oro - 1/5 - Lunatic
Lunatic - 1/5 - speed

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If that's the direction that town goes then I'm ok lynching Danielle but would prefer Lunatic. If Danielle doesn't say anything soon then I'll switch my vote
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Relax, Mr. happy-to-lynch-anyone-so-we-can-ignore-his-scummy-behavior, were not lynching Danielle or myself based on nothing.
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@Lunatic
We are eliminating Danielle because she is inactive. That is the only reason.
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Ok. seems cool