Religion should prepare us for a mentality, not faith to God

There is a distinct difference between my argument and Zeno's paradox.

It doesn't prevent us from being on a point on the timeline.

Something cannot come from nothing.

Causing the universe is an action, so it does have to be an acting agent. Furthermore, it has to choose to cause the universe, or else the universe would never be caused. Thus, it must be thinking as well.

I'm not sure whether you mean that it couldn't be recognized as a God or that it couldn't be recognized as the God

Agreed, but you didn't ask me to provide an argument for my preferred God. You asked me to provide evidence that a god(s) is real "to say nothing of your particular flavor of theism".

That one's easy. Since the God I'm arguing for must necessarily have caused time as well, this God must be timeless, i.e. time doesn't apply to him. Thus, there are no problems with an infinite amount of time so far as God is concerned.

So even those infidels that do live an moral upstanding life will not see heaven or god simply because they did not believe.  Very tolerant!

Moral and upstanding isn't the standard by which God judges us. Perfection is.

None of us can meet that standard.

That is why Jesus took our punishment on the cross.

However, the gift of salvation can't help you if you reject it. If you don't like that standard, it won't do any good to argue about it with me, because it's not my standard. It's God's.

it won't do any good to argue about it with me, because it's not my standard. It's God's.

What basis do you have for condemning God's justice (or anything else) beyond your own personal preference?

My family, as I take it view Christianity as the best path to living a 'good life, to being closer to God.

But I don't think they see it as a requirement to entering Heaven.

They have faith in a kind, loving, understanding, God, who possesses knowledge beyond their ken

That will in some manner answer for all that has occurred bad in the world,

That in some manner even the lost or fallen of humanity will be brought back into the light.,

Not dammed to some eternity of fire, smoke, darkness, and suffering.

Afterlife being a vague and mysterious thing, what.

I think they have faith that good people, even without faith in God, will be brought into the fold,

Even people who deny Gods existence.

They also don't profess to judge people's fate after,

Let God sort them out so to speak, I think.

Can't say I recall discussing Revelations 21:8, with any of my family members.

I recall by Dad mentioning once, that he didn't think Martin Luther had a very high opinion of Revelations.

Can't say I recall discussing John 3:18, with any of my family members.

And Can't say I recall discussing Mark 16:16, with any of my family members.

Eh, probably too much of a knee jerk reaction when I speak of 'all my family being such well loving, understanding Christians.

I imagine one of the reasons 'I'm an atheist is my family didn't focus on religion enough.

I recall our mother would encourage us to say our prayers each night early on, when we were together at a family meal we'd say grace, went to church a 'few times but not often.

Had kid Bible's early on, that they read with us.

Later on though, both the parents were busy working most of the time, and the religious conditioning fell off a fair bit. (Though I don't mean religious conditioning in a negative fashion)

Church ceased all together,

Mother was working usually, so the night time prayer fell off in time, for me anyway, but hey maybe third child is forgotten child. Rest of my siblings seem religious enough.

Religion really isn't something I discuss with them 'much, though I do at times,

Never told them I'm an atheist, feels awkward at times,

And again, I likely praise my family more than they deserve,

But it's the sentiment I get from them and their words, actions.

'Mostly/at times.

I'll let you know what they think about those references later, after I ask them.

That's simple. "Gods justice " is unjust to anyone with the slightest of morals and who has read about  god's justice in practice

Would you kill my children because I don't have the faith that you have?

We are still dealing with a mathematical infinite. You seem to be siting a difference with no real distinction. 

Why could this not be any point on the timeline? You are essentially arguing that time cannot pass at all on an infinite timeline. 

Black swan fallacy.

Causing an arc of electricity is an action so a lightning storm does have to be a thinking agent. Do you see the flaw in this argument?

That is true but unless you are prepared to abandon any argument for christianity specifically then it is pertinent. Are you prepared to forego any such future argument?

Perhaps once you have addressed my other points we can go down this particular rabbit hole of special pleading but until my points are addressed this is rather besides the point.

If you were immortal and you sat down to wait for a finite amount of time to pass, it would eventually pass, no matter how long it took.

That would imply that I'm arguing something can't come from nothing simply because that's never happened before. I'm arguing that something can't come from nothing because it's logically absurd. Nothing has no causal power. If you want to claim that something can come from nothing, the burden of proof is on you.

A timeless entity does not have problems with infinite amounts of time, and I provided evidence that God is timeless. That isn't special pleading.

If you choose any point on an infinite timeline, say for example the big bang, and waited for another point, say the heat death of the universe, then you would have a finite set within an infinite set. You seem to be arguing that infinite time, which I am not actually arguing must or even could be the case, would prevent time from passing completely.

Time would still pass in an infinite timeline there just would always be more to go.

It would not prevent events from taking place.

I am not claiming something can come from nothing I am saying that it is a black swan fallacy to say that everything must have a cause. Please try to keep up.

If it is not special pleading then why could we not propose literally any cause and simply say it was "outside of time". Like say a singularity which would then expand into time and space as a result of purely naturalistic forces unguided by any mind.

Also in order for something to exist as we understand it it must have space to exist in and time to exist during. Those would seem to be prerequisites for existence.

Can you demonstrate anything that exists outside of time and space or only hypothesize about some god(s) who by default are the only thing(s) that could (the very definition of special pleading)?

In fact I don't even know what you mean when you say nothing. You don't seem to be using the word in the way cosmologists use it for example, which is a vacuum which is actually something. Can you define the characteristics of this proposed nothing?

Would you kill my children because I don't have the faith that you have?