Bastard States Mafia D1

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@Barney
I am 1000% NOT saying we shouldn't lynch croc. That isn't a typical either, that third zero is completely intentional.
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The word "typical" in my last post was a typo. It was supposed to say "typo"

You know, I keep saying I am going to disable autocorrect on my phone... but then I keep not doing that.
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My town bloc for tomorrow: Water, disc, and ragnar
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I am heading to the red cross to donate platelets. I won't be back until late.
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why do i always get lynched or die first dp :(

why have i been town always except for once.

if i'm scum 5 times in a row that's pure luck.




Let's see, every single mafia game you have decided to lynch me or lead a bandwagon on me first dp. the only one you didn't, I was scum.


So....

think about it, i don't wanna die :(
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VTL Lunatic

i swear i like potatoes


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That doesn’t matter. All roles are randomized
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So you legit don't have a role? Like not even vanilla?
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no i have vanilla.

i think that was the misunderstanding.


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wait what tf does bastard even mean
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Usually means the mod is kind of messing with the players somehow, intervening in ways that's normally frowned upon, or made a game really one sided. 
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@Crocodile
why do i always get lynched or die first dp :(

why have i been town always except for once.

if i'm scum 5 times in a row that's pure luck.




Let's see, every single mafia game you have decided to lynch me or lead a bandwagon on me first dp. the only one you didn't, I was scum.


So....

think about it, i don't wanna die :(
If you’re town you helped us catch scum. You should be proud of yourself
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:D 


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nothing i don't have a role

no i have vanilla.
bruh
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i didn't know vanilla was a role.


i thought i would just say no role, cuz i thought that is vanilla
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@Crocodile
FYI, early on we're trying to find character claims (or state in this game), but role claims are generally avoided.

There are normal roles (vanilla), and power roles. But all are still roles, and it's useful to the scum team to identify any of them.

Let's say that all the vanillas out themselves: That then tells the Mafia who to not bother killing.
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Game Info

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press: 1/7 (ragnar)
croc: 6/7 (lunatic, water, oro, pie, supa, cookie)
lunatic: 1/7 (crocodile)

If you believe I have made a mistake please let me know.
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@Crocodile
Did you ever even answer my question I asked in post 146.
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@Vader
Yep I have a theory

Looking at the claims given, none of what I see were inherently positive claims. Mine has a positive to negative connotation. It seems like Lunatic's is all positive. That seems to be the case with Water's and Croc's justification as well, a positive but followed by a negative. I notice when Lunatic claimed, he seemed to only have a positive connotation to the role itself.

Also let's look at the claim. He claimed a Beloved Princess. This is a way so he doesn't get lynched during the DP, to draw a lynch away from him, so he can have a NP action during the night. 

Also look. The negative connotation is what the role is based on for me, Water, and Croc. It seems that Lunatic's is off the positive. According to Croc, the state is boring, so he is a no role (which I'm assuming is Vanilla)

I think Lunatic is scum. If I didn't get it right, you can go at it. But I think I am

So sorry for being late but I have a negative too! I think you might actually be on to something
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@Lunatic
You say this
Supa mod psyching in a bastard game. Love it lol.
Even though you said this earlier
Without knowing the setup, I don't know. Also I don't think this is bastard in role set up, warren quite clearly meant it was bastard due to his own participation in it.
Weird switch up huh
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I think DD is scum because if he was town he would've already confirmed whether he has a negative in his role PM or not. I'm calling it as Croc, Lunatic, and DD, but Lunatic is my top scum read. That said, Croc is almost guaranteed to be scum so we can start with him

I'll probably die tonight if I'm spot on like I think I am so watcher on me pls
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@everyone please say whether your PM is structured as positive things about your state and then negative things about your state or not

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So that means 33% have this connotation, 4 known members. That makes it impossible that negative connotations are scum roles. 


I'm ready to hop off Croc. I have a very strong feeling Lunatic is scum. I also will raise my suspicions on DD if Lunatic turns scum, but I just think this is Disc misreading the town
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@Vader
Croc still has to be scum though, unless scum has a role where they can rewrite people's pms or something? But if Lunatic is scum then this has to be a bus
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@Speedrace
not.  My PM is structured "because of X, Y. Therefore, you are Z."  Whether the given attribute is positive or negative depends heavily on economic and political bias.

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I think it is a bus to draw more town cred to Lunatic. Croc has been victim to bussing before as scum I believe
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@oromagi
Well that means in Warren's view, it is a negative. Idk warren's views so beats me
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@oromagi
That's how mine is worded too, you are X, you have ____, however Y, therefore because Y, you are Z
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Also look at other PM's. Croc was beautiful but boring, therefore vanilla. 
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@oromagi
not.  My PM is structured "because of X, Y. Therefore, you are Z."  Whether the given attribute is positive or negative depends heavily on economic and political bias.
And there's only one given attribute?