Bastard States Mafia D1

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@Vader
Mine is similar to yours. "You are X. You are (positive description), but (negative description). Therefore you are Z.
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@Speedrace
Yea I'm assuming that's what Oro's is too, but his is depending on how you interpret it. 
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@Speedrace
And there's only one given attribute?
yup.
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@Vader
Oh ok then oro's doesn't match ours hmm.

Still think Lunatic is scum though, see this post
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@Speedrace
I'm gonna wait to see how this plays out with other people
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@Vader
Mine is purely negative 
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oromagi                                               
ToWN                               State         Role:                                         DP1 important notes:
waterphoenix               Utah            MILLER  (#11
Bearman                        .                      .
iLikePie5                        .                     .
Discipulus_Didicit      .                     .
Ragnar                             .                     .
Supadudz                       .                     .
littlecookie                    .                     .                                                   Minimal check-in
Lunatic                            Idaho          BELOVED PRINCESS         Counter claimed Croc.
Speedrace                     .                      .                                                 
crocodile                        Idaho           .                                                  Counter claimed by Lunatic
AWoL
PressF4Respect          .                      .

UVC

press: 1/7 (ragnar)
croc: 6/7 (lunatic, water, oro, pie, supa, cookie)
lunatic: 1/7 (crocodile)

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Let's note that PressF's absence would have been far more visible earlier if Press was one of three scum.  I think that its reasonable to lean that slot heavily town when a replacement is found.
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@ILikePie5
Ok, so it's all negative if it isn't positive to negative. Lunatic's is the only positive one
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Ok, so it's all negative if it isn't positive to negative. Lunatic's is the only positive one
....unless you consider mine positive which many would.

I don't like this theory much. 
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Roughly 8 hours remain in the DP. Vote count pending.
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press: 1/7 (ragnar)
croc: 6/7 (lunatic, water, oro, pie, supa, cookie)
lunatic: 1/7 (crocodile)

If you believe I have made a mistake please let me know.

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@Speedrace
It's not mod psyching to literally take Warren at his word. But I've since said I could be wrong about what a bastard game entails.
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@warren42
Not really important, but I cycled to Croc, and more recently just to an unvote (it was when he was at only 3 or 4 votes).

To make things very easy without the need to verify: Unvote.
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@Speedrace
@everyone please say whether your PM is structured as positive things about your state and then negative things about your state or not
Mine is not structured like that.
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@Speedrace
mine isn't structured like that
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@Vader
Alrighty I guess your idea doesn't hold any water

see what I did there :)
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Ehh okay. Well we know some have negative only. Lunatic's is a posititve. Mine has both positive and negative but based of that the negative, so that part of the McMuffin Idea doesn't apply

I still think it's sus that he only has a positive 
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@Vader
Ehh okay. Well we know some have negative only. Lunatic's is a posititve. Mine has both positive and negative but based of that the negative, so that part of the McMuffin Idea doesn't apply

I still think it's sus that he only has a positive 

It can be hard to admit your wrong, I understand.
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@Lunatic
Egging me on for a reaction isn't helping your case. I still think you are scum
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@Vader
Egging me on for a reaction isn't helping your case. I still think you are scum
You were literally proven wrong, it's not egging anyone on lol. If you wanna be stubborn thats cool too. 
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So who’s planning on hammering before the day is over because it looks like Press ain’t comin
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@Lunatic
No, because 5/12 people still said they had a negative connotation. The part of 2 descriptions was wrong overall, but the negative connotation is still a possibility

I also do believe your behavior is somewhat scummy. I felt like when responding to the McMuffin Idea, you were inherently trying to use strong words to bait a reaction out of me and cause town to turn against me, and it looks like you're doing the same thing here 
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@Crocodile
If you flip town this game, you will play a key piece in helping the town out. So know your lynching isn't a waste
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@ILikePie5
We're only at 5/7. Ragnar took his vote off
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@Vader
That is incorrect. I'd had ragnar on press.

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croc: 6/7 (lunatic, water, oro, pie, supa, cookie)
lunatic: 1/7 (crocodile)

If you believe I have made a mistake please let me know.

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@Vader
No, because 5/12 people still said they had a negative connotation. The part of 2 descriptions was wrong overall, but the negative connotation is still a possibility
Role PM structure analysis fails for this type of reason usually. You are taking judging it by two very big and vague varying concepts that can easily apply to roles in almost every game.


I also do believe your behavior is somewhat scummy. I felt like when responding to the McMuffin Idea, you were inherently trying to use strong words to bait a reaction out of me and cause town to turn against me, and it looks like you're doing the same thing here 
Specifics?

Also do you normally doubt the CC'er in a CC situation, or is it just because you assume I am attempting something big brained? If so, I guess I'll take yours and speeds reads as a compliment, and not completely void of logic. 
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@warren42
#284 he took his vote off
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@warren42
Nvm u are right 
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@Speedrace
I think DD is scum because if he was town he would've already confirmed whether he has a negative in his role PM or not.
I guess I kinda do, that is not the point I was making to supa though. The point is that it would be really weird for a beloved to have that kind of justification.