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@Theweakeredge
You are confusing perceived fact with fact, they aren't synonymous.
well stated
Facts are fundamentally just feelings
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@zedvictor4
In fact, the World is not specifically "round".
IMPERFECT OBLATE SPHEROID
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@Intelligence_06
That is because in order for something to become a fact, all you have to do is to feel that it is true.
i'm going to take a wild guess that you're NOT an engineer
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@FLRW
something that is true
begging the question
or something that has occurred
anyone can make an unverified (unverifiable) claim that an event occurred
or has been proven correct.
begging the obvious question of what you mean by "proven"
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@3RU7AL
I admire your attention to detail.
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@Intelligence_06
Outside of hard science where shit either works or it doesn't, I would agree that facts are just feelings and opinions of what people want to believe is true.
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@sadolite
Outside of hard science where shit either works or it doesn't, I would agree that facts are just feelings and opinions of what people want to believe is true.
facts must be quantifiable and or logically necessary
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@3RU7AL
"facts must be quantifiable and or logically necessary" You mean like all the "facts" I get on the news, from govt and from politicians. Those are all quantifiable facts right?
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@sadolite
Those are all quantifiable facts right?
not even close
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@3RU7AL
But facts none the less to make policy
Perceived facts ARE facts because there is no objective basis.
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@sadolite
I had this discussion with Tarik.
And I had to concede, that according to definition there is a considerable difference between actual facts, and general information.
Misuse of the word fact had become a bad habit, as you just exemplified.
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@Intelligence_06
Perceived facts ARE facts because there is no objective basis.
Why must there be an objective basis? Is an objective basis even rational?
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@sadolite
But facts none the less to make policy
nope
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@Intelligence_06
Perceived facts ARE facts because there is no objective basis.
have you perhaps heard of "engineering" ?
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@3RU7AL
LOL, Nope govt has never made policy using "So called facts" bwhahahahahahahhahahahaha
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@3RU7AL
I feel I had, and I probably had.
What does engineering have to do with all these?
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@sadolite
LOL, Nope govt has never made policy using "So called facts" bwhahahahahahahhahahahaha
i agree
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@Intelligence_06
What does engineering have to do with all these?
in engineering - - a device either works or doesn't work
it doesn't matter how you "feel" about it
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@3RU7AL
A machine works if you think it does. If you think it does not, then it just means it is working towards something else, but never Not working.
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@Intelligence_06
A machine works if you think it does. If you think it does not, then it just means it is working towards something else, but never Not working.
try telling that to my dead batteries
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@3RU7AL
You just haven’t found the uses for it. Usefulness is relative. When you need it or not. You just don’t need dead batteries, creating the illusion of absolute uselessness.
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@Intelligence_06
It would be interesting to be a fly on the wall if you were unable to post anything on this site or open it and still think that it works. My guess is that you will say that it works, just not for you. Its all relative.
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@Intelligence_06
You just haven’t found the uses for it.
batteries have one and only one function
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@3RU7AL
Dead batteries can be used as weight or perhaps even fuel.
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@Intelligence_06
Or Art.
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@Intelligence_06
Dead batteries can be used as weight or perhaps even fuel.
they no longer function as "batteries"
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@3RU7AL
That is because you are assuming the only job for a battery is providing power. Of course, all batteries SHOULD provide power, but they can do other things as well.
Batteries are batteries and it is anything you think is a battery. Are you perhaps saying dead batteries are no longer batteries? Even then, a dead battery just transforms into something else useful that is not useful as a battery. For example, a used racecar wheel becomes a coffee table.
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@3RU7AL
If dead battery is battery: Then dead battery can still be used in other fields, they aren't obsolete nor useless.
If dead battery is not battery: Then dead battery is something else, for example, a fuel source. If you think it is obsolete in every way, then it is something that you don't know what it is. That thing has uses. We just don't have the demand for such thing.
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@sadolite
Well, reading your forum posts make me giggle, so it definitely works in some cases when Reddit is down and I am desperate for laughters.
Ironic roasting aside, I can definitely find fun just by reading debates. It still works, just not in its intended way. Or in my point of view, if I am banned and can no longer do anything here, it just transformed into an automatic self-expanding base of thinking, in my POV, since I don't know any of y'all IRL.