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@skittlez09
Oh I meant Croc lol
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Press, who did you visit last night?
I’m Miller.

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Was hoping you'd slip, didn't really know what else to ask you. Figured it was unlikely but worth a shot.
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@warren42
I meant crocodile not cookie lol

And he might not have read the OP or perhaps he read someone's post that made it sound like Disc was alive. I'm not sure
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Oof two or all four?
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@skittlez09
bruh goodluck with that shit 
Thx man appreciate it
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Pie, why do you think Croc is hiding information? Like where the hell did you get that from?
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Press, who did you visit last night?
I’m Miller.
Why is this hilarious
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@Speedrace
Oh ok, that makes more sense. I think that his not knowing Disc is dead feels more like it's probably town, so if you put a gun to my head I'm saying he's town but not really confident in that at this point.

And yeah he probably didn't read OP (he claims not to have) but even then it makes more sense that he's town, because if he's scum then he'd probably just assume the NK goes through (as it usually does.) There's also nothing that implies that Disc would have survived prior.

Essentially, in my head, there are limited options here.
  • Croc was a protective role and protected Disc, so he just assumed Disc lived through the night. This one is obviously not the case. First, two protective roles in a game this small would be very OP. Second, if there's a watcher in this game they were almost certainly on Disc last night (with an off chance they were on Press maybe.) If they had results, they'd have outted them, so if a watcher was on Disc last night they must not have gotten any results confirming that someone had visited him (probably points to a ninja.) Anyway, the first is reason enough to conclude Croc isn't protective, the second kinda devolves into some speculation.
  • Croc is town and didn't expect Disc to be the kill. He just assumed it'd be someone else. Maybe he thought press was widely townread. Maybe he figured mafia had a PR read on someone. Maybe he found Disc scummy and figured he was either mafia, and therefore wouldn't die, or mislynch bait, and therefore wouldn't die. Maybe he just didn't think. I dunno. Doesn't make much sense.
  • Croc is mafia and assumed the NK did not go through. I struggle to see any reason this would be the case. If he knows the NK target he's probably going to assume that it will go through.
So of the options I can think of the first one we can mostly rule out, the third one I think makes no sense, and the second one makes very little sense, but that's more than none. So I think he's town.

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@ILikePie5
That makes very little sense. Like if he's hiding night action results then why would you vote for him? Also he later clarified that he meant "we" instead of "I" which, if you re-read with that in mind, it sounds more like a question? I don't know. I get where you're coming from that you think that's a scummy post, but I fail to see how that can both be withholding information and scummy.

I also agree that what you're saying makes more sense than the "he didn't know disc was dead, and that's scummy" folks, but still is confusing to me.
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That makes very little sense. Like if he's hiding night action results then why would you vote for him? Also he later clarified that he meant "we" instead of "I" which, if you re-read with that in mind, it sounds more like a question? I 
No he said he meant “I” instead of “we”

i meant "I" not "we". i had a typo -Croc
“I” implies he knows who to lynch (I think I have an idea of who to lynch is what the sentence becomes.) He still hasn’t answered who this person is.
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@warren42
he said that how disc survived was weird, could be that his mafia partner killed disc without consulting him and he didn't notice. if you're talking about how he wants to lynch someone, he was trying to egg town on to lynch someone.
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Croc is big time town, last DP he was confused when I asked him who's in his "scum PM." This DP he thought DD was still alive. Croc isn't the type of player to pull behavioural gambits like this, trust me I saw his posts in the poker mafia scum discord.

Which makes the fast wagon on croc incredibly sus. I'd lynch all of them.
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@warren42
Bullish, why do you want to lynch speed?
Cause he's 1 of 3 on my not-town list, and he's developed a reputation as a scum player. Also he voted for me last DP.
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Get your votes off croc. Scum is between speed, cookie, and water by POE.
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@Bullish
Scum is between speed, cookie, and water by POE.
:(((((

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So of the options I can think of the first one we can mostly rule out, the third one I think makes no sense, and the second one makes very little sense, but that's more than none. So I think he's town.
That makes sense UNVOTE
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he's developed a reputation as a scum player.
That's not a valid reason to lynch someone, the chance of me being scum isn't correlated with my reputation as scum

Get your votes off croc. Scum is between speed, cookie, and water by POE. 
Lol that's not how POE works
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@Bullish
So why did Croc say what he said at the beginning of the DP
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Ah I read his post wrong, my bad. Croc who do you want to lynch and why? Pie is probably right (though the withholding info/being scum is still not all that coherent to me but oh well)
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he said that how disc survived was weird, could be that his mafia partner killed disc without consulting him and he didn't notice.
If Croc ever flips scum this feels like it might be his partner openly wolfing in the thread

if you're talking about how he wants to lynch someone, he was trying to egg town on to lynch someone.
uhhhh I don't even know how to respond to this tbh
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If Croc ever flips scum this feels like it might be his partner openly wolfing in the thread
Wolfing?
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@Speedrace
the chance of me being scum isn't correlated with my reputation as scum
But if you are scum it makes the scum team more dangerous.
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@Bullish
So that therefore means that I'm more likely to be scum?
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@Speedrace
wolf=mafia

open wolfing = openly playing to the mafia win condition, openly stating what the wolves are doing, etc
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@warren42
Ohhhh gotcha yeah I do that a lot
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@Speedrace
bruh

if several players are equally likely to be scum, it's the smart move to lynch the one who would be the most beneficial to the scum team.
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@Speedrace
u know it's like how scum kills the best town players first.
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Honestly now idek who tho choose, i'm currently re reading the dp

i have some suspicions but those are kinda based on profile pictures like i usually do xD

i suck at town tbh