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@Crocodile
It's not that we are scrwed, it's that we completely throw our advantage.
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@RationalMadman
well if they get hella lucky, we're screwed.
The odds are against mafia right now ofc
but VTNL is leading to an essential suicide
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@ILikePie5
Fold if you don’t know what to do. It’s simple. You don’t need to put your nose in everyone else’s cards.
Yes I do, I am trying to help townake the best bets and folds they can. At the moment everyone only knows five cards and can't coordinate who to investigate or anything.
People may even track the same target due to our lack of organisation.
Or you let mafia know who you’re tracking tonight and they do something to hinder it anyways. Which one sounds better anyways? Information that likely isn’t manipulated by scum or info that is?
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@Crocodile
The vtnl is hardly the biggest issue. The lack of revealing cards and arranging our night actions is the biggest issue.
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@ILikePie5
I'm not saying that we will be completely screwed, I'm saying that it is detrimental to town.
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@RationalMadman
true.
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@ILikePie5
Or you let mafia know who you’re tracking tonight and they do something to hinder it anyways. Which one sounds better anyways? Information that likely isn’t manipulated by scum or info that is?
Info that is. We can then assess who would manipulate it and why. Unless you're suggesting they cant make people visit each other, your point is rather moot.
can make people visit each other*
Yes I do, I am trying to help townake the best bets and folds they can. At the moment everyone only knows five cards and can't coordinate who to investigate or anything.
So you don’t trust townies to execute their roles and cards properly? That’s surprising. If people need help they can ask Bullish.
Info that is. We can then assess who would manipulate it and why. Unless you're suggesting they cant make people visit each other, your point is rather moot.
You’re assuming a lot of things. Giving Mafia a blank check is anti-town. We can’t make a fool proof plan period. If we can’t there’s no use to revealing our cards.
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@Crocodile
I'm not saying that we will be completely screwed, I'm saying that it is detrimental to town.
How and why?
i slept in so i have catch up
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@ILikePie5
So you don’t trust townies to execute their roles and cards properly? That’s surprising. If people need help they can ask Bullish.
What stops three people who hit pairs tracking the same person? Do you see how that lack of coordination only benefits mafia? Also how can they bet or fold as wisely lacking the 10 cards of extra information sitting on others' hands?
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@ILikePie5
You’re assuming a lot of things. Giving Mafia a blank check is anti-town. We can’t make a fool proof plan period. If we can’t there’s no use to revealing our cards.
You clearly eother know nothing about poker and gambling or are lying. Gambling optimally involves constantly increasing the information with which we make non-fool-proof plans. That doesn't mean it's dumb to increase the information.
What stops three people who hit pairs tracking the same person? Do you see how that lack of coordination only benefits mafia? Also how can they bet or fold as wisely lacking the 10 cards of extra information sitting on others' hands?
The chance of that happening is minimal. We cannot make the coordination fool proof. And why do you need cards to tell people who to track? Assign a person to a person. If they have the role then it goes through. You don’t need cards to do this. Coordination can happen without cards. As for betting you have 3 cards in front of you. If you have a garbage hand you shouldn’t be betting period. Revealing our hands also tells scum who’s getting the NK and then they can act appropriately. There’s literally no incentive to claiming our cards.
You clearly eother know nothing about poker and gambling or are lying. Gambling optimally involves constantly increasing the information with which we make non-fool-proof plans. That doesn't mean it's dumb to increase the information.
This isn’t your average poker game dude. If poker started with the flop already on the table then the game would be played completely differently. Mafia knowing everyone Town role is grounds for disaster.
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@ILikePie5
I don't even begi to grasp the case you're makingm mafia does have a life line if town stays disorganised with ngiht actions and unwise overly caitious folds and overly brave bets that result from lacking the information of others' cards
I vote to out cards, let's take a vote.
I don't even begi to grasp the case you're makingm mafia does have a life line if town stays disorganised with ngiht actions and unwise overly caitious folds and overly brave bets that result from lacking the information of others' cards
You don’t need cards to coordinate as I mentioned earlier. You shouldn’t be betting if you don’t have a hand period. If you’re in a dilemma go the safe route and fold. Knowing cards benefits scum
I vote to out cards, let's take a vote.
I say no. If you would like to read my reasoning it’s in my previous posts.
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@ILikePie5
Same to you
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@BearMan
Vote please. Reveal cards or not?
Yes. Only one mafia left. Carpe diem.
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@RationalMadman
Yes. Only one mafia left. Carpe diem.
There's benefits to both, but I think not revealing our cards is better.
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@RationalMadman
My vote is VTL Pie
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@Crocodile
There's benefits to both, but I think not revealing our cards is better.
Why?
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@Vader
You must vote on whether or not all of us reveal our cards. Currently the vote is 2-2.
The FoS on Pie doesn't make a lot of sense to me overall. I think Pie FoS's are a bit scummy overall. My cards for heal in DP1 were correct with no flaws to it overall and we're not countered. That should boost cred. My mistake was targeting Oro in the night with the cop, which I admit was a bad move, but justified as confirmation for lynch
I townread Bearman not just for not realising that Crocodile NK'd Oromagi (the ignorance implies he's town and not 'in the loop' on any chat outside of the game thread) but for voting for the revealing of cards.