Poker Mafia - DP3

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If all 6 of us outed our cards (not just 3) I'd be 100% willing to be NK'd so long as the chain reaction in place ensured that all visits could be accounted for. We have 3 outs and all 3 who have outed have a pair, this is completely optimal to keep forcing outs with.
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Exactly. But that isn't going to happen. Pie won't card claim and Press seems to not be actively and doubtely will. I'm not saying to lynch you at all. But I'm saying in the 1v1 tradeoff, we would probably cop/track press no matter what in that cycle. You being alive has no effect in this cycle 
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RM is another option. His plan technically would work done proper. But there is no way of knowing mafia's hand and roles they have. This leaves me worried he might set up something in general. His jumping to conclusions leaves me a bit worried as well.
This. There’s no freakin way any plan we make will be successful because we don’t know the the last two cards and mafia can cheat. Any plan we make will be manipulated by scum to their advantage. We literally cannot cover each other because we don’t know the last two cards. 
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@Vader
My plan is we lynch Pie for the DP. If the flip occurs, if any of the town were to get the NK, they should kill RM.
RM doesn’t like this. I am perfectly fine with it. He’s flip flopped on 1 for 1 like 10 times this DP.
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That's why I suggest him being the NK target if you flip town. If he is not killed and someone else is. I have no doubt he's scum
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@Vader
Let's ignore that I bickered with someone who had a solid townread on me. 
This is a lie. I never had a solid townread on RM. You can check the beginning of this DP.
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RM said that, not me

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That's why I suggest him being the NK target if you flip town. If he is not killed and someone else is. I have no doubt he's scum
I am more then happy with this. Now convince RM. 
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@Vader
RM said that, not me
I know he did. I’m just showing you another instance of his lies.
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I would, but it looks like he is not budging at all with his belief
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I would, but it looks like he is not budging at all with his belief
Cause he’s scum. He’s flip flopped and lied countless times during this DP. 
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Pie says I am scum for not budging on my belief, then says I am flip-flopping. I don't think he is coherent at this point. Why is he refusing to out his cards?
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Classic strawman from scum. I never said he was flip flopping on his belief of cars revealing. He’s been flip flopping on all of his reads. First he thinks you’re the most town. Then he says you’re least town. He also says I’m town. Then he scumreads me for not wanting cards to be claimed. Then he goes back to town reading me. He also flip flops on 1 for 1. He agrees to the 1 for 1 if cards are revealed with you and him or me and him, but now he’s vehemently against it. It’s all in the DP. There’s nothing more I can say.
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Alrighty, I can see that RM and Pie are having a swell time.
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What does a tie mean exactly? 
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@RationalMadman
What is your current read on ILikePie5 and SupaDudz?
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What does a tie mean exactly? 
If I have 2 Tens and you 2 Tens and we both get the highest hand it’s a tie.
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either can be scum easily and those are the two i would lynch in and not outside of today as well as want the NK on pie if he doesn't out cards with 100% certainty as supadudz is in the chain reaction so will be caught anyway.
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@ILikePie5
flip-flopping on reads is a null-tell. I flip flop on the reads i'm unsure of all the time, that's how i flow to form accurate reads. I have clearly stated what I'm sure of and what I'm not sure of.
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what is your hand?
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3S, 9S
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As unlikely as it is that you'll hit anything (especially as I have a 9) there does happen to be a spade in the flop and the only other spade is my Jack. On top of that if you do hit the 3 or 9, no matter how unlikely, it's a benefit for town.


I furthermore note that you've already been cleared by a cop and unless you both are scum, that's fucking absurd to suspect. Especially since you thought there was some kind of CC between croc and dudz, it shows me you're not with Croc to a high degree of certainty (you literlaly VTL'd based on this assumption not realising that 3 10's is superior to  3 9's as a hand).
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I will update the chain reaction but to be frank this changes very little since you're not a PR. What it does do, however, is require you to be track-cleared by someone so id like the other 2 to out. It's extremely important. I will update with the final chain reaction soon.
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Croc and Pie, please out your hands, there is no reason not to.
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In fact as you were cop-cleared you may be the one who ends up untracked and if everyone clears each other only then do we suspect you.
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3S, 9S
Fold 🤦‍♂️
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Croc and Pie, please out your hands, there is no reason not to.
1 for 1 me.
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Bet  do not fold. You're already investigated. Anyone who wastes cop role investigating you is anti-town. You have no reason to fold.
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I will explain more in 40 mins or so need some time to fully think and do stuff irl.
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We must lynch pie or croc for this plan to work, unless both out their hands.