Poker Mafia - DP3

Author: Bullish

Posts

Read-only
Total: 611
RationalMadman
RationalMadman's avatar
Debates: 574
Posts: 19,931
10
11
11
RationalMadman's avatar
RationalMadman
10
11
11
On the condition that we lynch Supadudz.
ILikePie5
ILikePie5's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 15,162
3
7
10
ILikePie5's avatar
ILikePie5
3
7
10
You both are going to die anyways. Why are you afraid?
RationalMadman
RationalMadman's avatar
Debates: 574
Posts: 19,931
10
11
11
RationalMadman's avatar
RationalMadman
10
11
11
-->
@ILikePie5
No. It is not the same either way around at all. It is a simple agreement. I am not okay with allowing Supadudz to enter the night phase.
ILikePie5
ILikePie5's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 15,162
3
7
10
ILikePie5's avatar
ILikePie5
3
7
10
-->
@PressF4Respect
Literally what incentive does RM have to staying alive after we reveal our cards to him? He literally wants to stay alive cause he’s scum and can cheat his way out of the NK. 
PressF4Respect
PressF4Respect's avatar
Debates: 10
Posts: 3,159
3
8
11
PressF4Respect's avatar
PressF4Respect
3
8
11
-->
@RationalMadman
@ILikePie5
Why are you both agreeing to lynch/NK SupaDudz? I haven't finished reading all of the posts yet so I might be missing something. 
ILikePie5
ILikePie5's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 15,162
3
7
10
ILikePie5's avatar
ILikePie5
3
7
10
No. It is not the same either way around at all. It is a simple agreement. I am not okay with allowing Supadudz to enter the night phase.
Why? It doesn’t matter cause it’s a 1 for 1 right? Why can’t you be lynched? 
ILikePie5
ILikePie5's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 15,162
3
7
10
ILikePie5's avatar
ILikePie5
3
7
10
-->
@PressF4Respect
Why are you both agreeing to lynch/NK SupaDudz? I haven't finished reading all of the posts yet so I might be missing something. 
Ya you need to finish reading to get context on what we’re talking about. If you have questions after I’d be more than happy to answer them.
RationalMadman
RationalMadman's avatar
Debates: 574
Posts: 19,931
10
11
11
RationalMadman's avatar
RationalMadman
10
11
11
-->
@PressF4Respect
I am being blackmailed to agree to a 1 for 1 with my scumread by Pie. The reason is beyond me.
Crocodile
Crocodile's avatar
Debates: 22
Posts: 1,156
3
4
10
Crocodile's avatar
Crocodile
3
4
10
who will the final 3 be?

if none of us are scum, it will end at me, press, and bear.

out of those 3, bear is the scummiest
PressF4Respect
PressF4Respect's avatar
Debates: 10
Posts: 3,159
3
8
11
PressF4Respect's avatar
PressF4Respect
3
8
11
-->
@ILikePie5
Can you please point me to the most relevant posts so I don't have to read through the whole thing?
PressF4Respect
PressF4Respect's avatar
Debates: 10
Posts: 3,159
3
8
11
PressF4Respect's avatar
PressF4Respect
3
8
11
-->
@ILikePie5
Literally what incentive does RM have to staying alive after we reveal our cards to him? He literally wants to stay alive cause he’s scum and can cheat his way out of the NK. 
The one problem with scumreading him because of this is the fact that he said he would go first. Would scum do this (genuine question)?

RationalMadman
RationalMadman's avatar
Debates: 574
Posts: 19,931
10
11
11
RationalMadman's avatar
RationalMadman
10
11
11
-->
@PressF4Respect
I don't go first, Supa does.  This entire bullshit 1 for 1 concept is some nonsense Pie came up with to scare me into not wanting to discuss the card revealing anymore.
ILikePie5
ILikePie5's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 15,162
3
7
10
ILikePie5's avatar
ILikePie5
3
7
10
-->
@PressF4Respect
The one problem with scumreading him because of this is the fact that he said he would go first. Would scum do this (genuine question)?
Sure why not? They can cheat. We can’t. As a townie what fear does he have of getting lynched though? Why is he adamant on Supa being lynched? Why does he want to be alive for the night?
ILikePie5
ILikePie5's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 15,162
3
7
10
ILikePie5's avatar
ILikePie5
3
7
10
I don't go first, Supa does.  This entire bullshit 1 for 1 concept is some nonsense Pie came up with to scare me into not wanting to discuss the card revealing anymore.
You still haven’t answered why. And I gave you multiple options. I’ve compromised with you a number of times.
RationalMadman
RationalMadman's avatar
Debates: 574
Posts: 19,931
10
11
11
RationalMadman's avatar
RationalMadman
10
11
11
-->
@ILikePie5
Why what
ILikePie5
ILikePie5's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 15,162
3
7
10
ILikePie5's avatar
ILikePie5
3
7
10
-->
@PressF4Respect
Can you please point me to the most relevant posts so I don't have to read through the whole thing?
It’s honestly best if you read the whole thing so you don’t miss the details. Take your time. We have a lot of time.
RationalMadman
RationalMadman's avatar
Debates: 574
Posts: 19,931
10
11
11
RationalMadman's avatar
RationalMadman
10
11
11
-->
@ILikePie5
The compromise is only because the town seems to be under some kind of depressant drug influence. I do not need to beg you to reveal your cards, town needs to force you to. We have agreed to it 4-2.
ILikePie5
ILikePie5's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 15,162
3
7
10
ILikePie5's avatar
ILikePie5
3
7
10
Why what
Why should Supa be lynched first instead of you?
RationalMadman
RationalMadman's avatar
Debates: 574
Posts: 19,931
10
11
11
RationalMadman's avatar
RationalMadman
10
11
11
-->
@PressF4Respect
you mean reveal my cards first? Yes I don't care about that.
RationalMadman
RationalMadman's avatar
Debates: 574
Posts: 19,931
10
11
11
RationalMadman's avatar
RationalMadman
10
11
11
-->
@ILikePie5
it's not supa or me. I don't know where you got that idea.
ILikePie5
ILikePie5's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 15,162
3
7
10
ILikePie5's avatar
ILikePie5
3
7
10
The compromise is only because the town seems to be under some kind of depressant drug influence. I do not need to beg you to reveal your cards, town needs to force you to. We have agreed to it 4-2.
I will only agree if you submit to a 1 for 1 with me or Supa and get lynched period. My intentions are genuine and they will be revealed upon my flip. 
RationalMadman
RationalMadman's avatar
Debates: 574
Posts: 19,931
10
11
11
RationalMadman's avatar
RationalMadman
10
11
11
-->
@ILikePie5
I should not be lynched or even NK'd in my ideal scenario. Only an idiot would want to be NK'd or lynched just so that their scumread gets taken down. I have seen pariah town do this before, it makes sense even when the entir etown scumreads you, to offer this sacrifice but that's only because you're doing it to stop the person you townread not get lynched (that's the only situation where it's optimal to do).
ILikePie5
ILikePie5's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 15,162
3
7
10
ILikePie5's avatar
ILikePie5
3
7
10
it's not supa or me. I don't know where you got that idea.
You literally said you’d agree to the 1 for 1 if Supa was lynched first. Im asking you why should Supa be lynched first. Why not you?
RationalMadman
RationalMadman's avatar
Debates: 574
Posts: 19,931
10
11
11
RationalMadman's avatar
RationalMadman
10
11
11
-->
@ILikePie5
your flip? you don't even have a role until the night phase.
RationalMadman
RationalMadman's avatar
Debates: 574
Posts: 19,931
10
11
11
RationalMadman's avatar
RationalMadman
10
11
11
-->
@ILikePie5
I don't want to be lynched or killed but I am willing to be killed, not lynched.
ILikePie5
ILikePie5's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 15,162
3
7
10
ILikePie5's avatar
ILikePie5
3
7
10
I should not be lynched or even NK'd in my ideal scenario. Only an idiot would want to be NK'd or lynched just so that their scumread gets taken down. I have seen pariah town do this before, it makes sense even when the entir etown scumreads you, to offer this sacrifice but that's only because you're doing it to stop the person you townread not get lynched (that's the only situation where it's optimal to do).
You’re dodging. You agreed to 1 for 1 with Supa if cards are revealed an Supa gets lynched. Why not you? 
RationalMadman
RationalMadman's avatar
Debates: 574
Posts: 19,931
10
11
11
RationalMadman's avatar
RationalMadman
10
11
11
-->
@ILikePie5
No. The real question is why when I agreed to it, you suddenly were unsatisfied with my agreemetn and changed the terms to be me getting lynched.
ILikePie5
ILikePie5's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 15,162
3
7
10
ILikePie5's avatar
ILikePie5
3
7
10
I don't want to be lynched or killed but I am willing to be killed, not lynched.
I’m literally asking you why lmao. Yet you’re dodging.
RationalMadman
RationalMadman's avatar
Debates: 574
Posts: 19,931
10
11
11
RationalMadman's avatar
RationalMadman
10
11
11
-->
@ILikePie5
Give me the reason why not.
ILikePie5
ILikePie5's avatar
Debates: 3
Posts: 15,162
3
7
10
ILikePie5's avatar
ILikePie5
3
7
10
No. The real question is why when I agreed to it, you suddenly were unsatisfied with my agreemetn and changed the terms to be me getting lynched.
Again dodging. I agreed to compromise with you not agree with your deal. You said you’d agree to a 1 for 1 if we revealed our cards. I said let’s compromise. I’ll agree to the card reveal if you agree to be lynched first. Why are you afraid to be lynched first l? What difference does it make to you?