Poker Mafia - DP3

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Flush on Day 1* I meant the flush he talked about on Day 2.
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Please contribute to this thread. Your input is necessary.
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I know, right now I'm reading the pages and pages of dialogue between you and Pie (with some stuff by other people). 
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How many jokers are in a deck?
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Can you please explain again why you townread Bearman?
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I can't exactly put my finger on it yet, but there's something really disturbing about the Croc-bear dichotomy I'm reading up on right now.
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Do what you want, I don't even understand what you are saying at this point about me, Pie.
It’s simple. 1 for 1 me or 1 for 1 Supa. No strings attached. 

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How many jokers are in a deck?
He already said 54 cards so 2 jokers. 
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There is absolutely a string attached, I want card-reveal as the bargaining chip that makes me agree. 
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There is absolutely a string attached, I want card-reveal as the bargaining chip that makes me agree. 
Nope. That’s not how 1 for 1 works. If Supa gets lynched then you die and vice versa. Stop running away. Why are you afraid of 1 for 1 without cards?
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Why I townread Bearman:
  • When he was scum with me, I noticed not only how much he lurks but that when he posts he merely mimics others' posts and adds almost 0 of his own thoughts. While he's beginning to shift towards that on this day phase, the past 2 have involved him being very constructive and this is an extreme tell I doubt he fakes or is aware of. It seems when he's scum he simply cares less about the game (the opposite to some, this is a person-specific tell pattern).
  • Today he not only agreed to the card reveal, he revealed his cards the day before and entered today knowing I knew he'd revealed them. He also know I knew he'd folded as it was me who told him to that day. He therefore never once replied to anyone asking what cards he had and paid full attention to me referring to it. While this baton-passing 'talk for me' attitude can be scummy for some, his attention level to cross-day knowledge of others and stuff they'd said to him and what they'd do based on that is something that screams town to me. He also got the guilty on Speedrace, right? He's not the type to bus, he had a lot of difficulty in the game I was scum with him to even contemplate why bussing can be a smart move. This may have evolved though and is barely a factor in my read, which tells you how much he's towntold outside of that.

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Why are you afraid of 1 for 1 without cards?
Not only has the vote been won 4-2 for revealing cards but you need to understand that nowhere in this do I get anything for risking my life in some absurd 1 for 1 push for a lynch that I never suggested or wanted in the first place. If I agree to it, I want something.
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If RM is town, why is he afraid of 1 for 1? What’s the difference with or without cards revealed? There is none. If he’s afraid of the 1v1 both being town, why is he agreeing to a 1v1 with cards?
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Why not suggest the 1 for 1 to others and see how scared they are? Why do I need to agree to such a bullshit thing when I don't want to die in this game at all?
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Not only has the vote been won 4-2 for revealing cards but you need to understand that nowhere in this do I get anything for risking my life in some absurd 1 for 1 push for a lynch that I never suggested or wanted in the first place. If I agree to it, I want something.
How about we compromise? We reveal cards and lynch you today and NK Supa? Sound fair?
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No. Not at all. Reveal cards, lynch Supa and NK me after we arrange how to deal with the situation. I may have the best hand for all you know.
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bearman is lurking
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Why not suggest the 1 for 1 to others and see how scared they are? Why do I need to agree to such a bullshit thing when I don't want to die in this game at all?
Literally a minute ago you were fine  with 1 for 1 if you got cards. What changed?
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@Crocodile
He is lurking more this day phase than the last 2. Much more. Even so, I don't think he's lacking attention to the game. his contributions haven't been filler/fluff-post.
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No. Not at all. Reveal cards, lynch Supa and NK me after we arrange how to deal with the situation. I may have the best hand for all you know.

Nope. We reveal cards, we lynch you today after you tell us everything we need to know.
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The 1 for 1 must be me dying at night, not Supa. I want to also see the cards and arrange things so my killer is caughtm even if they are town. We then need to make sure that the potential mafia claimign tracker on my killer are seen visiting the one who does the kill to ensure they really tracked etc. 
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Why do I need to agree to such a bullshit thing when I don't want to die in this game at all?
We most likely have 1 more scum, which means 5 town remaining. Every townie has a possibility to get any of the roles on the list, so roles can't be it. Given this, why would you be averse to dying in this game?

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@Crocodile
Are you seeing this from RM? Literally think brother. If he’s town he shouldn’t be afraid of a 1 for 1 where he gets lynched first and then Supa is NK. It literally shows he wants to be alive after learning the cards of every single town player.
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Aside from reasons of me being the most competent player in the town pool in my eyes, is the fact that this 1 for 1 scenario is entirely made up by Pie. I'd rather we lynch someone who isn't me and NK someone who isn't me. Both make perfect sense to root for as a townie, since I know I am not scum. Which part is confusing?
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The 1 for 1 must be me dying at night, not Supa. I want to also see the cards and arrange things so my killer is caughtm even if they are town. We then need to make sure that the potential mafia claimign tracker on my killer are seen visiting the one who does the kill to ensure they really tracked etc. 
We can do this before the DP ends when we lynch you. Why are you so adamantly against it?
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Yes I should, I know I am town and will be removed from the game. I am both very competent and could make mafia slip while alive, I already caught 2 slips.
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Okay I agree if I am the NK and not the lynch.
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We most likely have 1 more scum, which means 5 town remaining. Every townie has a possibility to get any of the roles on the list, so roles can't be it. Given this, why would you be averse to dying in this game?
Read what I wrote to Croc.
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Okay I agree if I am the NK and not the lynch.
Nope you will be the Lynch. What difference does it make?
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I agree to this:

We reveal cards and no matter what we arrange, I get killed at night unless I'm the best hand.