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Supa is VTL'ing you. Croc said he wants to lynch you tomorrow.
I’m referring to the card claiming. Supa albeit wishy washy is still on my side. Croc I recall saying disagrees with card claiming. To my knowledge you only have Press on your side unless Bear popped on somewhere.
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for 1 me. If we both die and are both town then town can go after Supa
This not only assumes only 3 scum but it ignores ability of the player. You and I ar ethe most leadership-type players that the town has left, the rest will be wiped the floor with if Supa or Press is scum and that's because they let whoever wants to lead them, lead them. Press still can be scum if mafia had a godfather role.
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Supa albeit wishy washy is still on my side.
Why is he voting to lynch you?
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No, if I am scum and this is 3-scum situation, everyone is my obstacle. I'd simply side with you, want town to not reveal cards and laugh at the disorganisation and how hard-townread I am by you. Instead, I challenged you and you fail to see how I'd never want to anger you as scum.
You’re funny. You were in my list the beginning of the DP. At best this is WIFOM anyways.
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Why is he voting to lynch you?
Why don’t you ask him? I did. He hasn’t responded yet.

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Ok so you have Supa on your side. But he failed to answer my question about why.
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I have absolutely no idea. Croc was sus, but not enough to lynch.
Pick the 2 most scummiest people? Do you support a Mass card claim?
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yes he does, he said so. Also, supa's inability to answer why applied to the opposite way around too, it's why he switched.
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yes he does, he said so. Also, supa's inability to answer why applied to the opposite way around too, it's why he switched.
So you think he’s scums. Who said he supports you. Shouldn’t that be raising red flags lmao
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No. He also was against the cards outing until I pressured him to explain why. When asked why he was against it, he suddenly said he had said he was not against it (which he never said, in fact he still opposed it after agreeing with me on the benefits).
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Since we all agree supadudz is the most sus

VTL supa

i do agree with Rm's actions if he's town.
idk about his mafia actions
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If you agree, do you agree we should out our cards?
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I've been thinking about that, I still haven't come to a conclusion.

It has both benefits and things that are detrimental to us.
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No card reveal. I am willing to lynch Supa if and only if everyone can guarantee me that if I die RM gets shanked immediately.
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No it doesn't. It has only benefits but the benefit to the mafia is the have a slightly better idea of what to do at night.
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It has both benefits and things that are detrimental to us.
We’ve been successful these past two nights. Why risk mafia knowing our exact plans?
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No I don't agree
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if we do card reveal on top of it, then i agree
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also why use the term 'shank' that is a violent threat.
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No I don't agree
Good for you.

if we do card reveal on top of it, then i agree
So you can manuver your way out? No strings should be attached with a 1 for 1.

also why use the term 'shank' that is a violent threat.
It’s synonymous to kill in this context.
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Strings should be attached when only one party wants the 1 for 1.
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Strings should be attached when only one party wants the 1 for 1.
Why’re you so afraid dude? 1 for 1 the way it’s intended
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I am afraid of losing the game. If you are town and I am town, this is an idiotic thing to aim for no matter how satisfactory it would be to have someone as abrasive and irrational as you out of the game. I never support lynching 'anti-town' people if I think they are town. To me the game is simple:

  1. As town I aim to lynch mafia.
  2. As mafia I aim to either thrive myself or sabotage myself and get my partners townread.
There should be no third aim where as town you can suddenly justify lynching town who is acting 'anti-town'. You want 1 for 1 so badly and based on that currently it appears you'd be lynched and not me, I townread that aggression a lot. Therefore, I do not want this 1 for 1 as I believe you are town. It is extremely simple to understand. On top of being aligned with town, other than this fiasco with you not understanding why card-revealing is optimal for town, you have otherwise been very constructive for the town.

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you can suddenly justify lynching 
I mean 'I can' here, the 'you' is general.
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There should be no third aim where as town you can suddenly justify lynching town who is acting 'anti-town'. You want 1 for 1 so badly and based on that currently it appears you'd be lynched and not me, I townread that aggression a lot. Therefore, I do not want this 1 for 1 as I believe you are town. It is extremely simple to understand. On top of being aligned with town, other than this fiasco with you not understanding why card-revealing is optimal for town, you have otherwise been very constructive for the town
Idc who you 1 for 1. But you need to 1 for 1 someone right now without any strings attached. And this is such a reversal. Scum reading me for my position on the cards and now backtracking saying I’m town. I get why you’d roleblock me. Cause you’re afraid of me. 
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Hold up. Why are we lynching supa? What made him sus?
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Hold up. Why are we lynching supa? What made him sus?
I’m all aboard the RM wagon rn. He’s flip flopping between me and Supa for no reason
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Do what you want, I don't even understand what you are saying at this point about me, Pie.
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Process of elimination combined with him constantly lying about his reasoning and positions on things. On top of all the process of elimination (that leaves everyone else more likely town than he is), is the fact that on Day 1 was a very over the top interaction between Oromagi and Supadudz that seems to have been a bus-relationship planned to separate the two of them in our eyes. Furthermore, him having the flush on Day 2 would explain how Mafia got a double kill and also why I didn't die despite him not being doctor. He almost did certainly actually have the flush, given he outed 2 diamonds that weren't fullhouse-activating and also weren't my 4D card from Day 1)