Poker Mafia - DP1

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@ILikePie5
So what do you think we should do this NP?
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@Crocodile
Pure OMGUS not reason.

I have reason, you do not.
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wait actually
UNVOTE.

I wanna know Rm's reasoning
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@PressF4Respect
So what do you think we should do this NP?
You tell me your thoughts and then I’ll tell you mine 
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@Crocodile
Flips back in a second. I'd like to know why you are being so scummy rn.
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I don’t like the fact that Croc backed off his vote so fast after BearMan called him out
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@ILikePie5
i didn't even see bearman's post lol, i literally posted it only a few minutes after rereading the whole dp
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@Crocodile
i didn't even see bearman's post lol, i literally posted it only a few minutes after rereading the whole dp
8 minutes is a lot of time. Joining wagons cause everyone else is kinda scummy. You need to have a reason of your own
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@BearMan
that's why I was confused about the catastrophic all-betting scenario. 
You're the only one who said that would be catastrophic (and I guess it would be for scum). Why would you be confused about a statement that only you were making?
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I know Bearman was suspected because he said not everyone should bet, which I would attribute to a misunderstanding of the rules

Why is everyone on Crocodile though? For posting fluff?

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@Bullish
When a person dies do we get to see what cards (and thus what roles) they had each night?
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My reason?
The reason I vtl'd bearman was that he VTL'd people without reason at the begining. First, he vtl'd disc saying "this should put enough pressure on him". that was ok ofc.

But he then said I am vtling croc with a reason. But what is that reason, unless he is going with Rm's lynch. Then again, RM has no reason either. And also that ish-omgus in 148
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I then unvoted, because I found RM scummy for saying

"fold or bet"

but why would you fold, when it has no consequences for us?
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@ILikePie5
I already stated my thoughts
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But he then said I am vtling croc with a reason. But what is that reason, unless he is going with Rm's lynch. Then again, RM has no reason either. And also that ish-omgus in 148
Bruh, did you not read my claim beforehand? Or are you just skimming? Useless town is worse than scum.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Sorry, I phrased that wrong.

I meant I was confused enough to post that. 
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I know Bearman was suspected because he said not everyone should bet, which I would attribute to a misunderstanding of the rules
lol why would he misunderstand the rules when no one else stated that. as far as i'm concerned folding would be terrible for town
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but why would you fold, when it has no consequences for us?
Obvious scumslip. 
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--> bearman

whoops meant to say bet
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--bearman

wait nvm. I meant to say

betting is good, folding is not good.

ok?

unblock me pls
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@Crocodile
That still does not make any sense. This is a last ditch effort to save that scumslip. Betting does have consequences, both bad and good. Are you saying that you are supporting something that was your reason for me being scummy?
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my grammar sucks :(
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--bearman

see #200
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@BearMan
but why would you fold, when it has no consequences for us?
Obvious scumslip. 
This is obviously a grammatical error
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Every game we convince ourselves that we can figure out scum based on subtle tells in behavior.  Every game we lynch the same guys based on our incredibly honed senses and every game we get it wrong.  I am trying to learn this lesson but its so hard to be patient in the early rounds.

for now, I'm fine with perusing the reasons why Supa and DD are holding out on character claims.

It seems likely that we are going to have  a huge amount of data round2, although I'm not sure I've got a handle on the dynamics of this variation yet.   It seems wildly unbalanced to me. 
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@PressF4Respect
I already stated my thoughts
As did I..
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@BearMan
Betting does have consequences, both bad and good. Are you saying that you are supporting something that was your reason for me being scummy?
What? Betting has exactly 0 consequences, at least this DP when we know that no one is gonna get miller. There is literally no reason not to bet
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@Crocodile
betting is good, folding is not good.
RM's claim was saying what choices you have. Fold or bet. Folding logically means play it safe, and don't use the role, but you don't get NK'd. Betting on the other hand, is using the role, and having the risk of being NK'd. At least, that's what I interpreted the directions as (please correct me if I'm wrong).

What I'm having trouble comprehending is that with a fragment of evidence, you somehow managed to try to lead false lynches on TWO people. You are being sus af, as your play is completely different, and you are accusing people of being scum for little things
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Wait a second. I think I understand the part wrong. Did bullish mean contend as in

-Has a chance to use the NK

or

- Has a chance to be the victim of the NK?



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@oromagi
Every game we convince ourselves that we can figure out scum based on subtle tells in behavior.  Every game we lynch the same guys based on our incredibly honed senses and every game we get it wrong.
Finally someone else who understands why I VTNL