Poker Mafia - DP1

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@Speedrace
There’s literally no town reason I can think of not to out. For mafia, it’s unlikely, but there’s still could be a reason.
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@BearMan
Whoops didn’t see your claim there lol

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k i'm a holy poker player. i don't know shit about poker, but even I know the legendary 

STU UGNAR.

yea i'm that guy
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Oh ok you're right
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Character claims will do nothing at all
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 I claimed right off the bat .  Post #85.  non-binary messiah = JC Tran



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@Bullish
How many scum are there?
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@BearMan
What we should go with his 25% bet, 75% fold. That way we still can have action, but with less consequence. All bet would catastrophic.
With a wild card in the flop there is no chance of any bad consequences from betting.

At least, not with town's role set...

Somebody looking at a different role set that the rest of us can't see?

VTL bearman
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Town should agree beforehand on what the NK and/or possible vig kill should be in case we get either of them
I’m in support of this 
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What we should go with his 25% bet, 75% fold. That way we still can have action, but with less consequence. All bet would catastrophic.
How would all bet be catastrophic? Like Disc said, what's the consequences?
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VTL Disc for activity

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Somebody looking at a different role set that the rest of us can't see?

VTL bearman
That's actually a good point
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Welcome back.
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There is a decent chance of having multiple trackers. That could make for a chaotic night phase.
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@Vader
See post 121
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@Discipulus_Didicit
With a wild card in the flop there is no chance of any bad consequences from betting.

At least, not with town's role set...

No, I'm not mafia, I'm just really confused with this setup
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Okay that's fine, who else is on your team in the pm?
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@BearMan
What “disastrous consequences” could come from everyone betting?
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Since poker is highly reliant on reading tells from nonverbal cues and this setting does not allow that to happen automatically I think it is only fair that everyone post their poker face for everyone to see. Here is mine:

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As of now my policy is Croc because he hasn’t posted anything substantive 
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@ILikePie5
bruh i told you i don't know shit about poker.

i'm still onto bearman for that weird sentence, and passing it off as "im confused about the setup" is not enough.
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@Crocodile
bruh i told you i don't know shit about poker.

i'm still onto bearman for that weird sentence, and passing it off as "im confused about the setup" is not enough.
Please post your prelim reads of everyone 
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Since poker is highly reliant on reading tells from nonverbal cues and this setting does not allow that to happen automatically I think it is only fair that everyone post their poker face for everyone to see. Here is mine:
I gotchu

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Yes

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@ILikePie5
dam everyone

Crocodile

TOWN
ILikePie5- I mean he's providing evidence and seems town enough.
Disc- He provided good points.

LEAN-SCUM
Bearman- I still don't get why he encouraged us not to bet. I don't think he's a noob anymore, cuz this is his third mafia game.

NULL
Everyone else besides these kids


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I was confused. I thought that having everybody being vulnerable to mafia was a bad idea. This would not be a problem in ordinary games, but this setup actually makes it hard to detect mafia unless they have a big scum slip or a drastically different play (like I said before).  I also didn't fully read that mafia sometimes could not perform the night kill, that's why I was confused about the catastrophic all-betting scenario. I haven't played Poker either and don't know how to play.

The only person right now that fits my criteria is Croc, as he usually isn't this calm in his play. As seen in other mafia games, he is quick to lynch, quick to claim, and most often does something bad for the town. 
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Town should agree beforehand on what the NK and/or possible vig kill should be in case we get either of them
Thoughts? Do you have anyone who you want it to be?
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I'm thinking waiving the vig kill for now, NK can be either Bear or Crocodile