Poker Mafia - DP1

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Yeah I think this is only marginally helpful but still can be here and there.

Very happy this isn't an actual hand because I'd probably bet big chasing a card or cards I want.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Since poker is highly reliant on reading tells from nonverbal cues and this setting does not allow that to happen automatically I think it is only fair that everyone post their poker face for everyone to see. Here is mine:


Here's me just waiting to stack mad chips
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Town should agree beforehand on what the NK and/or possible vig kill should be in case we get either of them
Thoughts? Do you have anyone who you want it to be?
Discuss? Yes. Agree on? No.
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A cop should investigate me tonight because I'm going to be betting every single day, full disclosure. Don't care if that gets me a miller. Higher utility otherwise. Investigate me tonight to be sure of a true result.
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When a person dies do we get to see what cards (and thus what roles) they had each night?
This is a good question from disc. I feel like if he thought of it as scum he's smart enough to ask it publicly for credit, but it feels like it's more likely he genuinely had the thought as town.
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@oromagi
It seems wildly unbalanced to me. 

Is it unbalanced, or is it just swingy?
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Idk. Warren and bear seem town. Croc I have not played with before so can't say. For the rest I would have to reread the DP.
What made me seem town? I feel like I hadn't done much up to this point.
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@Vader
So none of the cards are the same in each deck? There different combos. Interesting
What is this of different decks?
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Croc:

Last time RM and bear were Mafia, they were solely focused on themselves and defending themselves. It literallly seems the exact same way now lol.
If Croc flips scum this is TMI and RM is scum with him.
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@warren42
I realized that we were playing Poker. Had a brain fart
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Was the brain fart that you forgot that town didn't know there are multiple decks? Do you guys have your own mafia deck?
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Considering there are 8 players in this game
Potential scum slip from press guaranteeing the 8 town players? Also a reasonable assumption given the rule is usually 25% rounded down (he and I discussed this in speed's mafia chat) but the notion of having three mafia because all town need to be eliminated is worth considering. Probably nothin here.


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Official Vote Count

VTNL(3/6) - Press, bear, Supa
Supa (2/6) - oro, Disc,
Croc (1/6) - RM,

Not voting: warren, Crocodile, Speed, pie,

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@warren42
It's either 3 or 2 mafia, 3 is only viable and fair due to the win conditoin of mafia being eliminate ALL town.
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I think that the luckiest reward for mafia is probably something along the lines of Yakuza or turning someone into a traitor.

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Town should agree beforehand on what the NK and/or possible vig kill should be in case we get either of them
Thoughts? Do you have anyone who you want it to be?
Discuss? Yes. Agree on? No.
Why not agree on?

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@Speedrace
I think vig shots (which the NK essentially is in this setup) are good to be guided, but not to be cemented. Being too predictable is just good for mafia more often than not.
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@warren42
You think that town should randomly shoot?
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I agree with most people about a VTNL. To gain information is a must, and we should see who is NK'd.

VTNL
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@Speedrace
Not what I said, but some unpredictability is good. Discuss targets and try to come to some general agreement about a pool of targets maybe, but straight up deciding who to shoot probably not.
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@warren42
Gotchu. I think that makes sense. Who do you think should be in the pool?
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@Speedrace
As of right now I have townreads on

{RM, Pie, Disc}

Which leaves

{speed, bear, croc, Supa, oro, press}

(though I think there was a point I saw something townie out of one of the bottom six)

I think anywhere in the bottom group is fine
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@warren42
Wait what
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{RM, Pie, Disc}
Can you please explain each of these townreads?
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Supa multi-decking scumslip confirmed. My guess is he was thinking of the list of possible mafia roles and forgot town could not see those.

Warren bear and RM are my town reads though none of those is set in stone just yet. There is a decent chance I will have the NK tonight so just a heads up if supa is not lynched today I will likely be shanking him unless someone else has a really good hand or convinces me there is a better target.
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Apologies if I am not on top of my game as much as usual. Very busy in life and only have time to skim a few pages and read a few pages, some I even have had to skip entirely. I have examined the context of Supa's post 244 however and am confident it is a scum slip. Let's lynch him today please.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Suoa is olaying as he always has as town (exceot he's vtnl). You shouldn't have revealed that, now if maf have a roleblock power from their hand, they can accurately use or not use it on you depending if Supa is one of them or not.
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I would NK oromagi or croc, Press has gradually evbed away at his scumminess while Oromagi is weirder and weirder in how little he is trying to post anything of high quality. This is not at all like the Oromagi townie I've played with so far.
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@warren42
If Croc flips scum this is TMI and RM is scum with him.
He's my boggest scumread, so I'd say it's likely that he does flip scum. You are welcome to try and push on me for it but your reasoning is ridiculous.
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