Poker Mafia - DP1

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I know you disagree with me, it is about how useless you vs I see outing as popular. You see it as useful especially as it can clear someone and then who hammer is indeed 100% mafia (though I did notice later someone said Mafia may have a popular role and I admit that is actually a good point to bring but two people hitting full house?!! In the same hand? That's rare but not unthinkable, it's so rare that it genuinely didn't seem likely to be an issue to me. I also don't know if mafia hit their popular power on full house or something less vs more lucky but I admit this was an oversight.

Regardless, I see it as totally and utterly pathetic for you as a player to have full house and not pretend you had three of a kind instead and claim cop with a guilty for reactions. The reason I explicitly typed out the idea rather than keeping it in my head was so that a townie who does this (including me) in the future doesn't get scumread for doing it.

Sorry I said four of a kind but it was full house. Four of a kind is harder to hit than full house by a decent enough degree, due to community/shared cards. Sorry for this mixup but overall little changes as full house is still extremely rare.

I meant full house.

Pie is right about popular being a possible Mafia role so outing as popular does nothing really

And claiming a cop with a guilty will then get that player lynched, who is likely town, and now you've got a mislynch for no reason and you'll get A SECOND mislynch when you lynch the player who got the "guilty"

Supa usually reacts by now, by lynching some and pushing hard on them. His passivity in the face of what's happening is loosening my townread on him.

I am curious to see what he says.

I understand your argument. The default mentality is that a popular player should just out as popular. I am giving an alternative theory and I promise that if I am popular and alive in the game, I will not out it until necessary to do so. It is a complete waste to out.

I'm thinking pretty much the same as yesterday

Supa's had at least two rounds of comments since I posted this and still is holding out on character claim.  We agreed and expect that character claim has no real diagnostic value in this game so why is Supa holding out?  Why so disengaged.?  I think Supa is increasingly suspicious and actionable.  I also note Bear's defense, which makes no sense.  Why would any town defend another player's inactivity?  Why create some false dichotomy of inactive vs lurking as if the distinction is detectable or of investigative value.

Read my post 32 again.

I also just posted my reads accidentally in my closing argument in the patriotism debate.   uh-oh

Yes, that’s why I VTNL’d. Like I said before, NP results are much more concrete than behaviour reads. Lunching in DP1 is much more likely than not to result in a mislynch.

I’d support lynching Supa for lurking if there’s no other consensus

Oof

Ohhh I just read up on that. My apologies. I'm a bit behind and still need to fully comprehend stuff

I'll claim now. I'm Phil Hellmuth. I have a large temper but won the most championships, 15

I don't like lynching people for inactivity, I only like pressuring them. Supa has been on. The lurking is a bit sus, but I don't think that's enough to warrant a lynch.

Oh god you guys racked up the posts here.

Press and Speed can both attest that I will not be posting much this week as my time is limited. I mentioned it in mafia chat of speed's game. I'm sorry, but I'll be able to pick it up around DP3, provided I live that long. In the meantime, from what I was able to keep up with I'd want to vote bearman. I think no-lynching is acceptable (though I still don't like it) in a normal game with 10 people, but with the shifting roles and potential for a ton of kill power (KP) in the night, I don't think it's smart.

Apologies for appearing as I am lurking. I'm just trying to understand the DP and the rules involved. I also was busy yesterday so I didn't have to check and read

I can confirm that Warren told me prior to the start of the game that he would be busy

Yesss hellmuth is OG. 

If this were theme based, hellmuth would wothout a doubt be godfather. I know this irrelevant to the game but I just had to say it. Hellmuth is to poker what Eminem is to rap. You can hate him for being as angry and great at poker as he is but you can't deny the prowess.

1 for 1 trades are beneficial, but in a game where it could be impossible to determine the scum based on NP actions, a 1 for 1 may not work. In most setup's that's usually an effective strategy

Guys i'm currently on a trip so i might not be very active in the coming dps

So we have 2 people that are essentially going to be deadweight for a couple of DPs

Are you suggesting we lynch them?

Reading up the DP, I think betting is the best option at the moment. If someone gets a role, it's can be used for the town. The best option is to bet

I am being passive because this game is a new game I have never read. I do not want to be too hasty in going to lynches when the game mechanic can shift the way a behavior occurs. I will most likely become more active as understanding grows, but right now, I'm being cautious about who I am choosing

What's your reasoning behind an RM scum?

My FoS is leaning toward BearMan. Why would you rather play it safe in this scenario? If a bet goes through, that means we can potentially hunt down mafia as a whole? Why the need to play it safe when we gather more information as possible for DP2, especially when reads are not clear?