13 Reasons Why Mafia DP1

WaterPhoenix has a point with this statement. The character alignments match up perfectly with the character, and it looks as if he wants to draw a cop's attention. This is actually a really convincing and good argument. However, it isn't a genius scum move. It's merely a bait for town.

Lynching Croc could confirm Press as town. This may be our best option

Read WP post about Ani and give some comments. I think WP has a point

6. Oromagi - Almost everything he's said is something I would've said had I been active. My biggest town read

12. SimplyBeOurselves - Similar to Oro in that he has very logical plays and is thinking things through like a towny

10. WaterPhoenix - Said he has a scummy character. I see no reason why he would do that as scum, plus his talking overall has been towny

5. SupaDudz - Would've scum slipped by now if he wasn't - but in all seriousness he's been playing pretty towny

9. Warren - Inactive

be sure to note that you have not un-vtl'd yourself.

There are some roles that get empowered by getting lynched.  Is it possible you're trying to get lynched?

If Croc is scum, RM is scum IMO

I was thinking that maybe he was a jester, but I don't know tbh

I think determining alignment based on character is tricky.  I would not make any assumptions until we've seen a few of Pie's descriptions and how closely character dictates justification.

I want to vtl warren until he joins or dies.  That is my priority.  If warren joins we can discuss other lynches.  If warren does not join, I want to lynch him first.

Un-vtl.

My endgame role will suprise you.

Please try to bold this. It’s hard for me to identify it if you don’t.

If I am scum, it makes RM scum.

If I'm not scum, it makes RM null.

If I am scum, it makes Bearman kind of scum.

If I'm not scum, it makes Press or Speed scum.

But, I caution you. This reasoning is false. Flip it the other way.

Crocodile randomly claimed Ani Achola. This, since she is an obvious power role, it is stupid, and very scummy. It has been said the Ani lies a lot, but to protect her friends or crap like that. So in a nutshell, Croc is probably a framer. (applying RM's role relation theory)

I'm doctor.

Hmm Oro has a point. I think the best move is to wait until warren comes and see if he has objections, if there's no time we can just lynch croc.

wati wahta

If you're a doctor, then why, WHY would you character claim out of the blue (on DP1 no less)?

You've just opened yourself to mafia. You've given them such a big advantage by claiming, and allowed them to play mind games on you. Even if you can heal yourself each night, you've essentially wasted your role. 

I don't buy this for one second. It seems like another attempt to trick town into backing off of their votes.

Thoughts?

I guess but we're gonna look real stupid if he is doctor

See post 529. If Croc was a noob, then his actions would be a little more justifiable for his role. But he's not.

A non-newb doctor would NOT play the way Croc played. How he played was pretty much the opposite of doctor.

Bruh mafia's gonna kill you no matter who they are.

you sure are.

Exactly. But remember it's a triple bluff

--> Bearman

im going to be lynched either way

I think it is more likely than not that we stupidly outed our doctor because players think they can figure out who is scum and who is town based on chats.  If croc was scum, his scum partners would have advised him against character claiming early and they would have advised against role claiming doc.  Now, if croc doesnt die NP1 town will certainly want to lynch him DP2.

Mafia is much smarter than town because mafia is three people thinking together, editing each other's worst ideas and sharing each other's best ideas.  That's the whole point of the game.  If people are doing dumb shit in DP1 it is almost certainly because they are town and not because they are scum.

My strong advice is that we bandwagon warren starting now.  Either he joins and helps or he dies and we have at least eliminated useless clutter.  Let's hope that there's some protection for Croc tonight and let's be sure to pay close attention to croc's present bandwagon because the odds are fairly high that scum is in there.

Since Croc is supposedly doctor, which RM's role relation theory supports,

If croc proves town, then the odds for scum substantially increase for this list:

Simply, Supa, Press, Speed, Bear

Wait, so are you saying Croc is town because of all the scumslips he made?