Nobody seems to want to define what the very most extreme of left thinking or right thinking is but rather move to the center and characterize in philosophical terms.
Does this not count?
From post #78:
At its core, liberalism places man himself as the standard (touchstone) of morality. That is, whatever man deems moral, IS moral. And thus, pleasure becomes the greatest moral good, (homosexuality is pleasurable, thus good) and suffering becomes the greatest moral evil (poverty is painful, thus evil) All liberal doctrine flow from this core.
At its core, conservatism places the standard (touchstone) of morality outside of men, that is, morality is independent of men, therefore, what a man deems moral, IS not necessarily moral. And thus, pleasure may be moral good (sex in marriage)or moral evil, (sex in rape)and suffering may be moral good (sacrifice to save innocents)or moral evil (oppressing the poor), all conservative doctrine flow from this core.
Either way you look at it you are moving to the left .
I disagree. This is not a movement to the left.
The ruling elite agree not to kill each other...
Neither is this....
...OR they may get allies and agree to enforce rules that say you will be killed if you try to kill and rob other people but you may do as you please other wise.
Those are moves to the right. Thus, anarchy is the middle ground, an absence of left OR right ideology.
The right behaves as if morality is sourced outside men.
The left behaves as if morality is sourced inside men.
Anarchy behaves as if morality does not exist.
It's ok if you find no value in my post, but saying that nobody seems to want to define what the very most extreme of left thinking or right thinking is, is just not true.
Good thread topic BTW.