Joe Biden says that if you don't vote for him then you are not black

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no, this is quite simply not true. 1) corona virus can still be a horrible, debilitating disease in a significant percentage of people who get it even if it doesn't kill you. 2) basic prevention methods obviously help, but they are in no way guaranteed to protect you. 
How is it not true lol. If it won’t kill you you’ll be fine lol 
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How is it not true lol. If it won’t kill you you’ll be fine lol 
my definition of "fine" does not include hospitalization and struggling to breath as I potentially infect everyone I love and quite possibly kill them. If that is "fine" to you, then you are a very strange person. 

There is a very big gap between dead and "fine". 
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my definition of "fine" does not include hospitalization and struggling to breath as I potentially infect everyone I love and quite possibly kill them. If that is "fine" to you, then you are a very strange person. 

There is a very big gap between dead and "fine". 
We just differ on semantics. I’ll be happy if I don’t die even if I have suffer. Fine means in the future, after everything has occurred. The future doesn’t exist if I’m dead. Plus I already said that we have to be more careful around vulnerable populations. After you get cured and you have antibodies, you’re practically chillin
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lol so poor = black to him
Forgot about this one lol. What does Trump have against him? A case in 1970 where he didn’t have to admit that he was discriminating and instead had to read a piece of paper? Calling countries shitholes? What else? Saying there were fine people in both sides at Charlottesville? 
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Forgot about this one lol. What does Trump have against him? A case in 1970 where he didn’t have to admit that he was discriminating and instead had to read a piece of paper? Calling countries shitholes? What else? Saying there were fine people on both sides at Charlottesville? 

"It’s fine, you’re changing history, you’re changing culture, and you had people – and I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally..."
-DJ Trump

Worst racist ever.



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Fun fact.
While Trump was genociding .1 million Americans with Covid,
2.7 million Americans died EVERY YEAR under the Obama administration.

Obama killed lots of Americans. 27 times more. /endsnark
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Trump being more racist than Joe Biden is a joke
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We just differ on semantics.
no, being deathly ill and requiring hospitalization is very much not semantics. The risk of spreading a potentially fatal illness to my loved ones is absolutely not "fine". 

Plus I already said that we have to be more careful around vulnerable populations. After you get cured and you have antibodies, you’re practically chillin
there is no evidence of that. There have been documented cases of people getting corona virus multiple times. So no, getting it does not mean you can't get it again. 
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The risk of spreading a potentially fatal illness to my loved ones is absolutely not "fine". 

Where's your yearly outrage over the flu deaths as people walk around spreading it to old people with co-morbidities? Oh yeah, CNN forgot to signal the right time for your outrage. Or did they?

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Where's your yearly outrage over the flu deaths as people walk around spreading it to old people with co-morbidities? 
Covid has a mortality rate roughly 10 times higher than the seasonal flu. The two are in completely leagues. 

Oh yeah, CNN forgot to signal the right time for your outrage. Or did they?
I don't watch CNN. 


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no, being deathly ill and requiring hospitalization is very much not semantics. The risk of spreading a potentially fatal illness to my loved ones is absolutely not "fine". 
To me deathly ill and requiring hospitalization is fine compared to death. The risk of spreading it to your loved ones will happen regardless of any measure.

there is no evidence of that. There have been documented cases of people getting corona virus multiple times. So no, getting it does not mean you can't get it again.
Maybe you should study up on your biology. Antibodies prevent the disease from causing more harm each time you get it. That’s how the immune system works. The symptoms will definitely be less severe.
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Covid has a mortality rate roughly 10 times higher than the seasonal flu. The two are in completely leagues. 
The seasonal flu also has a vaccine and still 50-80k die lol
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lol, Pretty sure 600-800k people don't die to Covid. HB is pulling numbers out of his CNN.
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The seasonal flu also has a vaccine and still 50-80k die lol
No. The seasonal flu mutates constantly. Vaccines only ever cover previous strains. Since it is constantly changing, they never fully effective. 

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lol, Pretty sure 600-800k people don't die to Covid.
The flu killed 34,000 people in the US in last year's flu season. Covid has already killed triple that (102,000) and we are not even half way through the year yet. So even with historic levels of preventative measures being taken to prevent the spread of Covid, it is killing, far, far more people than the flu.
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No. The seasonal flu mutates constantly. Vaccines only ever cover previous strains. Since it is constantly changing, they never fully effective. 
What makes you think a coronavirus vaccine would be effective then lol. The seasonal flu and the coronavirus are both viruses that can mutate.
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Even if your worst-case suggests 200k deaths form COVID, which is a highly suspect number considering all the cases of deaths reported WITH COVID being added to the numbers of death FROM COVID...

We are talking about an increase from 2.7 million to 2.87 million dead a year. That's a 4% increase in morbidity, and the country is supposed to go into a tailspin panic over that?

If we went from 2.7 to 2.6 million deaths per year, would the country suddenly embrace the new age of immortality?  Obviously not. This whole thing reeks of manufactured outrage. Not to mention we have almost NO flu deaths indicating many of these people would have died from something else if not COVID this year.

People are outraged because WHO and people in the media told them to be outraged. This level of panic isn't universal across the globe. America has gone full crazy with the authoritarian lockdowns, mostly triggered by US corporate media with the wall to wall panicporn coverage. 

Even if the numbers are fairly close to seasonal flu, Panicporn media certainly won't allow the public to know that as it will directly lead to a mob riot against authority for overreacting and the media itself for instigating the whole scam.

I heard some protesters actually smashed some windows out at CNN's headquarters. Your temple is under assault HB. Are you not concerned?

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What makes you think a coronavirus vaccine would be effective then lol. The seasonal flu and the coronavirus are both viruses that can mutate.
one is influenza, the other is a corona virus. They are not particularly similar. That's like saying humans a kangaroo's both walk on 2 legs so they must be exactly the same. 

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Read this article.


It's absolutely jawdropping.

"But the increase was so insignificant as to render it statistically moot."

Absolutely no media outlet in the USA is putting these numbers into context with the normalized death rate in America.

The media and Government Authority needs to explain why a complete suspension of constitutional liberties is warranted for a single-digit percentage increase in yearly morbidity, or warranted for even a decimal increase in annual morbidity.

What happens if we discover the annual morbidity rate has actually decreased due to fewer people driving or going outdoors and engaging in risky lifestyle decisions?

Will that warrant a yearly government lockdown of the people to delay as many people as possible from inevitable death??

Absolutely none of these deaths are taken into context, as though the media wants to pretend there IS no normalized deathrate, and that all "COVID deaths" exist in a bubble.

I remember seeing a news clip where COVID deaths were lower than shooting deaths in Chicago. SMH.
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Even if your worst-case suggests 200k deaths form COVID, which is a highly suspect number considering all the cases of deaths reported WITH COVID being added to the numbers of death FROM COVID...
the current numbers are almost certainly low. Since the tests are/were in such short supply, they didn't bother testing alot of dead people because they didn't even have enough for the living. 

We are talking about an increase from 2.7 million to 2.87 million dead a year. That's a 4% increase in morbidity, and the country is supposed to go into a tailspin panic over that?
The mortality rate of the seasonal flu is about 0.1%. The mortality rate of corona virus is still a bit hard to say and varies based on how well countries have contained it. But numbers vary from 0.6% to like 3%. That is 6 - 30 times more deadly than the flu. Where the hell did you get 4% from?

People are outraged because WHO and people in the media told them to be outraged. This level of panic isn't universal across the globe. America has gone full crazy with the authoritarian lockdowns, mostly triggered by US corporate media with the wall to wall panicporn coverage. 
are you kidding? America has done the bare minimum. In alot of places they didn't even bother with the bare minimum. That is why the US is now the epicenter of the epidemic. 

Even if the numbers are fairly close to seasonal flu, Panicporn media certainly won't allow the public to know that as it will directly lead to a mob riot against authority for overreacting and the media itself for instigating the whole scam.
the numbers are nowhere near to close to the seasonal flu. something like 6 - 30 times more deadly.

I heard some protesters actually smashed some windows out at CNN's headquarters. Your temple is under assault HB. Are you not concerned?
I don't even watch CNN. I've told you that already. But you don't actually care about facts or reality, do you?
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one is influenza, the other is a corona virus. They are not particularly similar. That's like saying humans a kangaroo's both walk on 2 legs so they must be exactly the same. 
Bruh you’re the one that’s claiming viruses don’t mutate when they do. That’s actually a defining factor of viruses, especially RNA viruses, which the corona virus is. They tend to mutate a lot. Flu vaccine was very effective and still 30-60k people died. 
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Bruh you’re the one that’s claiming viruses don’t mutate when they do
no i didn;t. Do you just make stuff up for fun?


Flu vaccine was very effective and still 30-60k people died. 
if it was very effective, people wouldn't die from the flu. It is moderately effective at preventing previous strains from coming back. but since there are new strains every year, i wouldn;'t say it could ever be "very effective".

edit, sorry grey parot i hit reply to the wrong person. 
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no i didn;t. Do you just make stuff up for fun?
I’m telling you that people still died even with a vaccine. You blame it on the different mutations of the flu. I said that coronavirus also mutates so it’s a pretty similar comparison.

if it was very effective, people wouldn't die from the flu. It is moderately effective at preventing previous strains from coming back. but since there are new strains every year, i wouldn;'t say it could ever be "very effective".
30-60k people dying out of 30-60 million cases is very very effective. 0.001 death rate is very effective imo. But once again we differ on semantics.
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I’m telling you that people still died even with a vaccine. You blame it on the different mutations of the flu. I said that coronavirus also mutates so it’s a pretty similar comparison?
The comparison is shitty. All viruses mutate, but not all vaccines are rendered ineffective after a year a la influenza vaccines. The pertinent point is not the ability to mutate but the rate of mutation. 
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Covid has a mortality rate roughly 10 times higher than the seasonal flu. The two are in completely leagues. 
how about over the past 30 years, how does it compare then?

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I just don't understand the complete authoritarian lockdown accompanied with wall to wall panic coverage when nature does what she always does culling the sick, the old, and the weak as she has done for a billion years. It's like people are not even aware 2.7 million people die naturally (and normally) every year in America.

What is so special about 2020 that makes the world immune from basic Darwinian principles?
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I’m telling you that people still died even with a vaccine. You blame it on the different mutations of the flu. I said that coronavirus also mutates so it’s a pretty similar comparison.
I never said a cororna virus couldn't mutate. I said that corona virus and influenza are very different diseases, which they are. Comparing them is comparing apples and oranges. 

if it was very effective, people wouldn't die from the flu. It is moderately effective at preventing previous strains from coming back. but since there are new strains every year, i wouldn;'t say it could ever be "very effective".
30-60k people dying out of 30-60 million cases is very very effective. 0.001 death rate is very effective imo. But once again we differ on semantics.
the death rate of people infected has nothing to do with vaccines. If someone got the vaccine and it worked, then by definition they never got the disease and aren't in those stats (because they never got infected). It seems like you don't actually understand the stats you are using. The point is that 0.1% of people who get the flu die from it. 0.6%-3% of people who get corona die from it. That is 6 - 30 times more lethal than the flu. Comparing them is like comparing how lethal a wiener dog is to how lethal a bear is. It just makes you look silly.
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I just don't understand the complete authoritarian lockdown accompanied with wall to wall panic coverage when nature does what she always does culling the sick, the old, and the weak as she has done for a billion years. It's like people are not even aware 2.7 million people die naturally (and normally) every year in America.
if you can't understand why people don't want to be very, very sick and/or die, then no one is going to be able to explain it to you. Covid makes alot of people extremely sick and requiring hospitalization. It makes alot of people die. It is many, many times more dangerous that the kinds of diseases that happen every year,. 

What is so special about 2020 that makes the world immune from basic Darwinian principles?
what makes 2020 different is that we are dealing with a MUCH more dangerous disease than normal.