Joe Biden says that if you don't vote for him then you are not black

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Well he won the primary despite the knowledge of it while also being outfunded/outcampaigned by numerous other DEM candidates, and also while Trump himself has the infamous pussy-grabber remark and cant take any high ground himself... So Im not concerned at all that this will somehow be Biden's downfall like people are making it out to be XD 
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Everyone who hates Trump still hates him. Not everyone who’s votIng for Joe likes him
Right, so this changes pretty much nothing. 
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HB is a leftist hack. He’s probably gonna vote Biden but he’s too much of a pussy to admit it here
Biden is terrible. He is still an objectively better choice for america than Trump. Whether or not leftists hold their nose and vote for one corrupt rapist over the other is a decision that many will need to make. 

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not to get too sidetracked, but don't you believe what he said was true?  if you are rich or famous there are fans/groupies whatever and they will pretty much let you do whatever to them, so saying "they will let you grab them by the pussy" is a true statement even if it is crude.

You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.

Trump: Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.

it's disappointing you would try to equate that with what Biden actually does, like it's some kind of defense.

but like I said they have ignored what Biden has actually done, on video, with children etc and they ignore it, so, as I said they will ignore everything and anything, "you ain't black" hahaha  at least he didn't use the "n" word.....yet.
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If you're a democrat you can do anything. Trump was a Democrat when he said that comment.

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Was Trump a racist the 8 years he was a registered Democrat under the W. Bush Administration? I thought registered Democrats can't be racist.
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Right, so this changes pretty much nothing. 
To the contrary. People still don’t know Joe as well compared to Trump because the media doesn’t cover Joe’s gaffes. When the ads come rolling along with the debates, Joe’s approvals aren’t gonna plummet and alienate Bernie bros who will stay home or vote Trump.
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Biden is terrible. He is still an objectively better choice for america than Trump. Whether or not leftists hold their nose and vote for one corrupt rapist over the other is a decision that many will need to make. 
You’re confusing objectively for politically.
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To the contrary. People still don’t know Joe as well compared to Trump because the media doesn’t cover Joe’s gaffes. When the ads come rolling along with the debates, Joe’s approvals aren’t gonna plummet and alienate Bernie bros who will stay home or vote Trump.

You're assuming Facebook, Youtube, and Twitter are not going to interfere in the election.

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You're assuming Facebook, Youtube, and Twitter are not going to interfere in the election.
Luckily Americans still watch TV
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Was Trump a racist the 8 years he was a registered Democrat under the W. Bush Administration?
yes, of course he was. I already established he was committing crimes by discriminating against black people back to the 70's. 

I thought registered Democrats can't be racist.
Clearly you don't pay attention to anything I say. I have already confirmed that Biden is a racist. How many more dems do you want me to list off by name? But i suppose it is easier to just use straw man arguments and try to talk past me than to actually respond to things I say. 
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When everyone is a racist, noone is a racist.
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When everyone is a racist, noone is a racist.
lol, not everyone is racist. Trump is super racist. Biden is kinda racist. That is 2 people. But I realize that you need to believe that everyone is terrible in order to allow yourself to support the racist man baby. 

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You still haven't told me what a failed racist was.

Trump is by far a worse racist than Clayton Bigsby.
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Joe Biden said he will beat Joe Biden. I rest my case: He's a would-be idiot, but he doesn't get how it's done.
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Joe Biden is definitely more racist than Trump lol. Biden was proud of working with segregationists in the Senate. He was anti-busing. He wrote the 1994 Crime Bill that resulted in the mass incarceration of black people. He was buddies with Robert Byrd a former member of the KKK. He said that if black people didn’t vote for him they weren’t black. All of this was done in the scope of the government. Now what has Trump done that is even remotely similar to any of these.

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Joe Biden said he will beat Joe Biden. I rest my case: He's a would-be idiot, but he doesn't get how it's done.
People that don’t hear the “t” are deaf, change my mind.
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People still don’t know Joe as well compared to Trump because the media doesn’t cover Joe’s gaffes
The media has been covering Joe's gaffes since 2008, Obama himself had to ask his own team how many "Joe Moments" were going to happen after he selected Biden as his VP during the 2008 election before finally fully embracing him. A lot of Democrats also knew about Biden and his moments coming into the 2020 primaries and he still ran through the field because people know he has those moments but are relatively fine with them. 

The idea that these blunders are going to 'expose' who Biden is to the people and turn them against him is pure fantasy. People already have a good idea of who Biden is: An imperfect mistake-prone centrist Democrat who may not be the smartest person in the room but overall can surround himself and listen to people who do in order to get the job done when it matters most. 


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I say that if you don't vote for him then you ain't stupid!
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The idea that these blunders are going to 'expose' who Biden is to the people and turn them against him is pure fantasy.
Not really, as more people started to get to know him his approvals have decreased.

People already have a good idea of who Biden is: An imperfect mistake-prone centrist Democrat who may not be the smartest person in the room but overall can surround himself and listen to people who do in order to get the job done when it matters most. 
That’s a problem. The President is supposed to be the leader. Having a bunch of cabinet officials running the government is not leadership by any means.
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Not really, as more people started to get to know him his approvals have decreased.
Maybe by a few points but compared to Trump he's in much better shape in terms of approval from Americans..... If people on the right choose to not acknowledge that, then itll be their problem from now through when Trump loses re-election. The fastest way to lose any sort of competition is to vastly overestimate your own strengths while underestimating the other sides weaknesses.  

The President is supposed to be the leader. Having a bunch of cabinet officials running the government is not leadership by any means.
The entire point of the Cabinet is to have selected officials become highly specialized in one field of governance to present the best information to a President.... Then the final decisions get made by the President based on that information. Thats pretty much the strategy Biden would follow, as any President should. 

Trump's current strategy these days is to surround himself with spineless yes-men who were appointed because they will fall in line with whatever Trump wants to impose over the government. Trump was far better off with the people he initially appointed to all these Cabinet positions who were brave enough to tell him when he or his ideas were being stupid, but he got rid of them and now he fully exposes himself and his lack of knowledge on a regular basis by trying to enact agendas that arent legally enforceable. 
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Maybe by a few points but compared to Trump he's in much better shape in terms of approval from Americans
Eh kinda. Trump’s approvals (44%) are better than Biden (43.7%) but the disapproval’s are worse for Trump (54.1%) than Biden (46.2%). Trump will get 43-44% no matter what, but there are a lot of people who don’t consider Biden favorable or unfavorable. Once those ads start hitting and coverage on Biden increases, disapproval’s for Biden will go up. And remember, Trump is more popular today than Election Day 2016.
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The presidential election isn't a nationwide popularity contest anyway. The President can lose California by 10 million votes and still win.

Many of the conservatives moving out of California are moving to swing states. Thank you Gavin Newsome.


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Once those ads start hitting and coverage on Biden increases, disapproval’s for Biden will go up
The big issue is that as the Coronavirus drags on, the same thing will happen with Trump's disapproval..... His new cabinet members once again failed him by allowing Trump to promise to have millions of vaccines in production and distributed by the end of the year, once that mark gets missed by a mile and the death toll approaches 150,000 or 200,000 then Trump will have egg on his face comparable to the way Carter or Bush HW did by the end of their terms..... National Crises boost Presidential approval for a little bit, but if they drag on and on then it really pulls them down.

There's this idea that Trump or any politician nowadays will get 43 to 44% approval no matter what, and thats absolutely true during times of normalcy, but a national pandemic with 6 digit deaths of Americans and a recession worse than the one that began in 2008 can throw that entirely into jeopardy considering how unprecedented such a combination of events is..... If major hurricanes start sweeping across the south and hit areas like Florida or North Carolina, that will just compound things to a level that no president would be able to politically endure. 

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There's this idea that Trump or any politician nowadays will get 43 to 44% approval no matter what, and thats absolutely true during times of normalcy, but a national pandemic with 6 digit deaths of Americans and a recession worse than the one that began in 2008 can throw that entirely into jeopardy considering how unprecedented such a combination of events is..... If major hurricanes start sweeping across the south and hit areas like Florida or North Carolina, that will just compound things to a level that no president would be able to politically endure. 
I will respectfully disagree. Trump’s approvals won’t go below 43-44 regardless extraordinary circumstances. Even before and after Covid his approvals remain unchanged. It’s pretty safe to say 43-44 will support him no matter what. 

I don’t think natural disasters and Covid will have much impact honestly as long as Trump frames the blame on China which is definitely warranted. Then affiliate Joe with China off of Hunter and it should be good for him. Trump just has to make it another situation of lesser of two evils by November which is very easy for him considering Joe’s gaffes.
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The presidential election isn't a nationwide popularity contest anyway. The President can lose California by 10 million votes and still win.

Many of the conservatives moving out of California are moving to swing states. Thank you Gavin Newsome.
California is a liberal hellhole. Aren’t they like billions in debt even after having the largest state economy in the nation? People are taxed the crap out of and they still run deficits. 🤦‍♂️
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Even before and after Covid his approvals remain unchanged
We're only three months in, this shit could get a LOT worse before we get to a point where things can get back to normal 

Ive been teaching Middle School classes online since Spring Break. A lot of the admin where I teach think theres a pretty good chance this stretches into the start of the next school year in August, and that online teaching could last into 2021. Thats 6 months on top of the 3 we've already had, and who knows if we'll be any closer to normalcy by then compared to where we are now :/ 
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We're only three months in, this shit could get a LOT worse before we get to a point where things can get back to normal 
It’s all in the optics. I honestly think I had Corona back in February. I had all the symptoms. It was also sad that was the day I found out a buddy was going to ask out the girl I like to prom :/

Ive been teaching Middle School classes online since Spring Break. A lot of the admin where I teach think theres a pretty good chance this stretches into the start of the next school year in August, and that online teaching could last into 2021. Thats 6 months on top of the 3 we've already had, and who knows if we'll be any closer to normalcy by then compared to where we are now :/ 
I think we honestly will be fine. Around half of the deaths were exclusive to nursing homes, plus the death count is likely inflated due to the fact hospitals get more resources for having Corona deaths. But who knows. My college is opening.

If you’re healthy you realistically should be fine as long as you wash your hands etc. Avoid the elderly and ore existing conditions and everything should be alright. We flattened the curve and built infrastructure to combat a second wave. It’s time to reopen responsibly.
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Did Biden Say Poor Kids Are ‘Just as Talented as White Kids’

lol so poor = black to him
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I think we honestly will be fine. Around half of the deaths were exclusive to nursing homes
the reason for that is that if you have enough equipment, like ventilators, you can keep younger people alive even if though it makes them horribly sick. The reason that they have been able to keep it in check is because the number of infected has been kept mostly under the threshold of completely overwhelming the medical system. If that happens, you will huge spikes in deaths among younger people. And as the lock downs wind down and people refuse to social distance, it is very likely the infection rate will spike. 

plus the death count is likely inflated due to the fact hospitals get more resources for having Corona deaths. But who knows. My college is opening.
no, if anything the stats are probably too low. Lots of people have reported that they simply didn't have enough tests, so they didn't bother wasting them on corpses. So lots of people died in cases that might have been corona, and they simply didn't check due to lack of resources.

 you’re healthy you realistically should be fine as long as you wash your hands etc.
no, this is quite simply not true. 1) corona virus can still be a horrible, debilitating disease in a significant percentage of people who get it even if it doesn't kill you. 2) basic prevention methods obviously help, but they are in no way guaranteed to protect you.