Themeless Mafia 1 - Day Phase 1

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I'm not targeting airmax in a similar way because it says he was last seen a day ago so he hasn't been on at all
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@Zaradi
what do you like about oro's readlist? What do you think about the pressure coal and I have been putting on oro for his readslist?
I make no secret that I love Oro's lists, to the point that you'll probably see me copy/paste and amend it as things progress. As for the pressure, I don't think it's evidence of a scum team, such would be too obvious (plus as Coal confessed, he hasn't bothered checking his PMs to know if he's town or otherwise who his scum partner is).

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@Barney
I kind of question the logic behind doing that.  It helps him sure but its not very pro town.  Also pressing people for role claims and not even knowing your own role.. lol
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@Objectivity
Negative utility for town for sure.
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@Barney
I think theres been some misunderstanding. I asked you what you like about the reads on oro's list, not the set up of the list itself. 
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@Barney
(plus as Coal confessed, he hasn't bothered checking his PMs to know if he's town or otherwise who his scum partner is).
He actually said:

I was tempted to not even read my role PM... 
Which means he did read it but reluctantly.
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@Lunatic
nice fair enough.  disregard my previous post
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Official Vote Count

Danielle [2]: Lunatic (22), oromagi (80),
airmax1227 [2]: sui_generis (18), Ragnar (114),
Objectivity [1]: Zaradi (108),
oromagi [0]:
coal [0]:
Zaradi [0]:
Lunatic [0]:
sui_generis [0]:
Ragnar [0]:

Not Voting [4]: airmax1227, Danielle, Objectivity, coal (85),

With 9 in play, it takes 5 votes to lynch.

Day 1 ends at 7:10pm EST Friday, May 22nd.


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Regarding the dashboard, I don't care for him always putting himself above the town. That said, I've played enough games to know he starts to morph it when there's real town/scum reads. Right now everyone is in a grey area in the middle, based on nothing more than activity.

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TOWN                             Role                 Notes
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Danielle [2]: Lunatic (22), oromagi (80),
airmax1227 [2]: sui_generis (18), Ragnar (#114)
Objectivity [1]: Zaradi (#108)
oromagi [0]: 
coal [0]: 
Zaradi [0]: 
Lunatic [0]: 
sui_generis [0]:
Ragnar [0]:

Not Voting [4]: airmax1227, Danielle, Objectivity, coal (85),
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unvote because I apparently forgot to bold it the first time around
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I would not mind voting Dani if she logs on one more time without posting, if only because inactivity is anti town anyways.  Hopefully she does tho
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Regarding the dashboard, I don't care for him always putting himself above the town.

The idea is Above the town line is confirmed town.  Below the scum line is confirmed scum. When I am doing my reads I am always confirmed town.  I understand that you can’t share in that confirmation yet but if I didn’t wouldn’t people ask why I haven’t confirmed myself?

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@Objectivity
I think the time to get Dani to be active has come.

Objectivity is looking pretty town rn.

VTL Danielle
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I am just as open to pressuring Max, but I'm not sure if he's been online of late whereas Dani may have been online and thereafter not posted.

From Dani, I would like a list of reads so far.
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@Lunatic
Lol okay we will pretend you actually read the opening post for the sake of argument. I don't think anyone on this player list is dumb enough to fall for that bait.
I mean I typed out "I win with town" originally as sop for what I think is for lie detectors before remembering there isn't possibly any


so I wouldn't put it past EVERYONE… 


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Lunatic — TUF, ya? 
coal — YYW, ya? 
Objectivity — Objectivity, ya? 
Zaradi — Zaradi, ya? 
Ragnar — …Ragnar? 
oromagi — …oromagi?

anyone have any other accounts on ddo? 

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@coal
making these "as of the post to which I am replying" (haven't read any further atm) 

I would also like Sui's reads.
• I townread coal (with caution, as I respect your play)
• Lunatic null-vibing-town
• Zaradi null
• I don't consider inactivity AI for anyone here (yet) 
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@coal
TUF and Zaradi cannot both be scum based on their interactions.
how so? specifically would disagree. 
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Lunatic — TUF, ya? 
coal — YYW, ya? 
Objectivity — Objectivity, ya? 
Zaradi — Zaradi, ya? 
Ragnar — …Ragnar? 
oromagi — …oromagi?

anyone have any other accounts on ddo? 
This is correct. 
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Sui should post his reads on all players. 
I will update reads as I go 

so follow, sick bus
what?? who & why? 
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@sui_generis
TUF and Zaradi cannot both be scum based on their interactions.
how so? specifically would disagree. 
In addition to what I have already said, TUF and Zaradi aren't even close to on the same page, and it doesn't look forced. 

They cannot both be scum.  
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@coal
It's weird that Oro "reads" Zradi on the scale that he does.
it's not a hierarchicalized list 
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@sui_generis
it's not a hierarchicalized list 
Why do you think that? 
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@Danielle
You're being pressured for activity. You're at 3-votes right now, two more and you're lynched. To avoid accidents, I am not placing a vote.

Even a "hello" would be a massive improvement.
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@coal
What do you think about Oro's list of "reads"? What do you think about Zaradi's jumping on the bus to VTL oro after that list of "reads"?
I townread zaradi's behavior but do not townread the  follow-up VTL. 
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I am really getting frustrated with the inactivity.  

We approach the time that prompts are needed.  

MOD:  PLEASE PROMPT PEOPLE TO BE ACTIVE. 


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@sui_generis
I townread zaradi's behavior but do not townread the  follow-up VTL. 
Do you buy his argument that he was setting up the VTL of Oro before I VTL'd Oro?   Please explain. 

Please elaborate more on your thoughts on Oro.  
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(plus as Coal confessed, he hasn't bothered checking his PMs to know if he's town or otherwise who his scum partner is). 
I don't think Objectivity & Ragnar would be both scum AND both misread coal's post wherein he specifically admitted that he was only TEMPTED to read his role pm. I don't see cooperating on such a useless lie would benefit scum, and I don't see BOTH players misreading so carelessly as scum, though that's more on the presumption of skill than personal familiarity. 

Ragnar seems more genuine in his oblivion, and thus more town, between the two. 

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only tempted not to *
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unvote 
*threatens to vote dani*