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I interpreted her own townread better than her and she has the gall to talk about my reading comprehension. I know she slipped but I'll let others think it's my poor reading. She slipped in a Freudian manner by associating what we said with an interpretation that was quite different but seemed similar and implied inside knowledge.
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Watch how the coward ignores me, watch how she plays the "I'm too smart for you" card
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RM is the Donald Trump of Mafia lol (except he doesn't win). 
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I do win. The first game I played here was won hugely due to me.
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"Donald Trump Lolololol"
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Unofficial Vote Count

Drafterman (2/5) - Supadudz, Rational

TheHammer (3/5) - Buddamoose, Drafterman, Vaarka

Supadudz (1/5) - TheHammer

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I think if the rest of us can't agree on who to vote for within the next hour or so, we should probably vote Supa. Even if he's town, the mafia surely won't kill him (like RM) so we'll just have this vanilla claim lingering for days, probably until the game gets down to wifom.  Supa doesn't seem like he'll be very helpful with analysis. His weird behavior early on and lack of utility coupled with the most popular fake claim for scum (vanilla) implies he won't be sorely missed. That said, I still feel weird about GP and Earth (and I have to reassess Hammer); I'm just not sure we'll all agree to the same wagon before the day phase ends. How would ya'll feel about voting Supa if we can't form another wagon in time? If you prefer to lynch someone else, please make your case now. I'll try and do one more quick analysis before the DP ends if possible.
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@Danielle
Vote the uncc'd jane rayburn while you don't have to out? Hypocritical scumbag.
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@Danielle
I do win. The first game I played here was won hugely due to me

He's referring to beginners 1.1, look back at that game and get ready to lul. I was the mod, that's not accurate 😂😂
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@Buddamoose
To clarify, the strongest point against Hammer is that nobody town reads him? Does anyone town read Earth? 
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@Buddamoose
Budda, I am aware that you're as much of a delusional sadist as Danielle. Keep chipping away at my ego and find only whippings at your own in return. You were an absolutely shit mod.
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@Danielle
Hammer is at L-2.

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@Danielle
To clarify, the strongest point against Hammer is that nobody town reads him? Does anyone town read Earth? 
Don't think so, but does anyone scum read him?

Also Hammer wagon is bigger and we're short on time
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@Vaarka
that has 0% affect on the scumminess of Hammer. Better to lynch no one than lynch a town.
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@Danielle
No, that's not the strongest point. His vote for RM when FOS'ing Supa. Plus post 131 which details how he lacks

- Feasible town motive
- his behavior chiefly benefits mafia
- his rationale is inconsistent in its application aka being selectively applied. 

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@Danielle
I could compromise with an Earth lynch too, but would prefer Hammer as he's an outright scum read meanwhile Earth is sus
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@Buddamoose
Hold on - I'ma go look for post 131 by Hammer. After skimming back thus far, Earth is my biggest scum read. 
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Can you clarify which is post 131? These don't appear to be numbered. 
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@Danielle
Post 131 is my case, which contains the post which highlights the aforementioned.

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@Danielle
Top right of each post box is where the post number is. 
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@Danielle

Link to page six, which contains post 181


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@Danielle
Poor thing, as technologically illiterate as you are linguistically.


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Woops *post 131*
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Guys real talk I tried to cut my beard down a bit because it was getting kinda long but now it's too short and it's at that weird length where I either need to cut it all or let it grow out but if I cut it all then I look like I'm 13 and I don't wanna look like I'm 13


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@Buddamoose
Yeah, I'm not character claiming. In case anyone is confused, this is what happened:

1. RM said earlier that the only options for character claiming were everyone keeps their character a secret or everyone claims and we try to work out the liars from there
2. RM character claims
3. RM references his earlier statement in an attempt to strong arm everyone else into character claiming

There's still an 85% chance he's town imo, but a lynch might be worth it considering the 15% chance he's scum and the 100% chance we'd be cancelling his anti-town utility regardless.


Ironically I liked this post by Hammer. It's not indicative of being town, but I do agree with his logic here. I can understand wanting to lynch RM based on the above context (and he just seems completely unhinged... yikes). I also agree with Hammer that Supa's posts were cancerous (though not lynch-worthy) at the time. So to be clear I do think Hammer's posts were def fluffy, but it seems like his usual play style. Now if he were still pushing to lynch Supa now while we have more to go on, I'd definitely be concerned. But it seemed like he was just throwing it out there at that point; not calling for Supa's definitive lynch. I could be wrong.

Like I said, Hammer is null to me atm. So is Earth, but all of Earth's posts were overall useless in general. He provided zero analysis, zero commentary and gave zero insight on what he found sus or what direction he thinks we should take next. Even GP gave more than that. It's a good way to fly under the radar and avoid making any waves or drawing attention to one's self/mislynches. I'd prefer to lynch Earth or Supa because he'll just stay alive until town is at wifom. 
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@Vaarka
When you're young, your face suits looking very young, As you become a 'man' there is a turning point of a few months where afterwards you look better with facial hair than without no matter what your facial structure is unless you grow 'fuzz' all over instead of moustache/goatee type stuff.

Stick to the boy look for now, you'll know when you suit a more mature look.
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@RationalMadman
This man spitting the real facts
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@Danielle
- SupaDudz said he wouldn't vote for RM until he got  RM's full claim. Like I said, that seemed like a useless quip since the whole point of voting for someone is to pressure them into a claim. Why would RM (or anyone?) claim without pressure? Later on Supa clarified that he meant he wouldn't vote to KILL without a claim, but the same logic applies. People vote for pressure - not for death until other options have been weighed. It was the very beginning of the game and this seemed defensive of Supa, as if people were pushing to lynch RM right away which wasn't the case. Supa also character and role claimed without provocation. This defensive behavior was anti-town; it's also suspicious because I'm fairly certain that TUF gives the mafia at least 1 fake claim. Additionally, it's worth noting that Supa says he claimed right away because he'd be too busy to post this weekend, but then continued to post. 
I have given thoughts when active. I haven't been giving direct responses since yesterday night.

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@Vaarka
until the day I die I will do so, even if taunted or talked shit at for what I say. The world needs more people who don't let the masses pressure them, that way people like us can become the masses and we'll have a far more intellectual, productive species as a whole. Unfortunately, the smart are usually less courageous and the dumb very outspoken so for now humans will remain overall stupid but I have noticed over time a very gradual move towards favouring the smart but it's not a steep graph at all.
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@Danielle
Ironically I liked this post by Hammer. It's not indicative of being town, but I do agree with his logic here. 

Its not that the logic isnt followable. It's that it's being selectively applied per the given metrics. hinting at advocacy for mass claiming, claiming, and strongarming people into claiming being the supplied actions.

He FOS's someone who was currently being  heavily strongarmed into claiming by me, and i outright advocated for a mass claim. Ergo, I should have been scummier and/or far more anti-town in utility, ergo, selective application. His logic is otherwise belied as not making sense as his actions do not match fmpov with his post. 

Whether or not you agree or disagree with someones logic is not indicative of affiliation, and i find it puzzling you are presenting it/seem to be taking it as if that's the case. What's indicative is whether or not they are consistently applying it, as that's measure of whether or not they believe it themselves, ergo, not faked.