Abiogenesis

Is a self-replicating molecule "alive"?

Is a self-replicating virus "alive"?

Examples and ideas like that make me favor ID. In regards to abiogenesis however... i am ambivalent. It could have happened naturally in some freak amazing occurrence, or was set in motion by something else. The something else is just more attractive in my opinion but i don't discount the latter as maybe being the case too.  

There is intelligent design only insofar as there exist eternally existent phenomena inherent to high pressures found in Universe.

HIgher pressures lead to more fro less complex molecules to more  complex molecules.

Highest pressures of gravitational forces of Universe may be the most likely cosmic egg that contains SPACE-Time coding of most complex RNA-DNA molecules we know to exist, human female > male.

See this link to see potential for coding of all existence in left and right handed versions via high frequency { 1, 2, 3, 4 sets }  axis spinning to generate great circle/torus patterns all within one triangle.

What exists inside a black hole is expressed on its event horizon and black holes evaporate. 

Must be why you're chasing me. Sorry, I'm not gay, though I should have known you were.

None of it is. If anyone ever got real evidence for abiogenesis, it would be heralded by the leftist media as if it was the second coming of the Beatles. The simple existence of amino acids is not evidence that life spontaneously generates.

It isn't evidence. Deal with it.

Then you're an ill-informed intellectual pussy who claims there's no evidence and runs when given push back.

Right. Showing us that you grew up gay in a seedy trailer-park will convince us that you have evidence for abiogenesis.

WHY isn't it evidence...

If you don't already know why, you won't understand why when told. This requires an education, net mining is not a substitute for learning.

More specifically, what from the mountains of evidence you've ignored is not evidence?

There is intelligent design only insofar as there exist eternally existent phenomena inherent to high pressures found in Universe.

I fail to see the reference here.

Because I'm asking you to specify which piece of evidence "isn't evidence"

....I'm therefore from a trailer park?

So you cannot explain to me WHY the evidence isn't evidence?

You can't mention quality, methodology, logic, anything?

I suspect you don't have any response and you're just, well, an intellectual pussy.

So what specific piece of evidence is "not evidence?"

To be clear, your response to "What SPECIFIC piece of evidence is 'not evidence' and why?" was "none of it."

If English were your native language, you'd be able to tell the difference between a question about general concepts and an open-ended question about specific components.

By "intelligence" i am indicating a human type intelligence and above. Is that the kind of intelligence you are referring to as well?

The first cells metabolized with amino acids and replicated with RNA...that's it.

You don't need to make "biological bilateral souls"

Yes, everything Ive stated is concievable with human intelligence ergo there is no evidence of any intelligence "beyond" intelligence humans access on regular basis.  Human intelligence attempts to understand and comprehend inherent inteligence of Universe.

I agree with this statement, and i don't think you are saying with this that it is impossible that there is intelligence beyond us, just no evidence for it so i agree there. I think there is intelligence beyond human intelligence. So... that's just a belief or a hunch. I"m not sure, but to me it is impossible that there isn't. Given seemingly infinite time and space... there is no way we are the one and only intelligence that's ever been. A hunch in the end of the day. 

You my need to read Fred Hoyles 1990's book 'The Intelligent Universe' to better understand what is meant by intelligence  of Universe, 

Lol. What a moron.

Bwuahahahahaha

I think there is intelligence beyond human intelligence.

Given seemingly infinite time and space...

A hunch in the end of the day. 

Have you ever heard of a Boltzmann Brain? If so, is that what the intelligent universe means?

If not, i'll check it out online to see what i can find about it.

Have you read Fred Hoyles Intelligent Universe? Fuller mentions Boltzman in Synergetics but forget how it references Boltzman to Synergetics geometry, which he does. I can try and find it if we stay engaged on this issue of Abiogenisis

Yeah... let me know if you find it. You'll probably have an easier time locating it than i would since i'm not read up on anything by Fred Hoyles. 

Fred Hoyles Intelligent Universe

This would seem to be an ontological problem.

I see it as a sliding scale, I was attempting to calibrate your perspective.

So, in your view, the phenomenon of the big bang is, itself, evidence of life/intelligence?

This would seem to short-circuit any discussion of abiogenesis.

Sounds like you still don't get the concept. But growing up malnourished in a trailer park can do that to a young brain.

Third grade taunts bounce off me. No matter how stupid you get, I can and will toss you. You will learn.

Oh yes. You may be too dumb to know it, but you are getting tossed sherlock.

It's used by emotionally stunted trailer park adult trash who left school in the 3rd grade.

I would guess you to be about 15 years old emotionally. Tossing someone that immature won't even be a challenge. But I'll enjoy it!

Come on Mr. Graduate. Tell us again how your gutter mouth means you're an adult.