Christians created the scientific method. Atheists have abandoned it. They believe in something that hasn't been observed, and have no idea how it could even happen. That's not science. It's dogma.
Abiogenesis
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@3RU7AL
Cosmic Ancestry believes biologic life exists eternally in an eternally existent Universe. I can see that as feasible since energy ---as occupied space--- cannot be created nor destroyed ergo eternal.
Entropy = disorder disintegration
Syntropy or ordiny or negentropy or = centration { centered or around a nucleus? }. 4-fold cubo-octahedron is inherently nucleated.
Area{ S } of black hole = surface area of black hole divided by 4 i.e. S = A/4
The area of the spherical cubo-octahedrons 4 bisecting great hexagonal planes are equal to the area of the spherical cubo-octahedrons outer surface area. Thank you Archimedes.
When the 3-fold tetrahedron shrinks{ contracts } to have zero-volume{ non-existent } but maintains its four 60-degree-oriented surface planes, and those 4 planes will come to define a cubo-octahedron. See link a follows.
The tip of the original four planes now become 12 triangles external to the cubo-octahedron.
This to me is evaporation of the black hole and what is inside or surface area comes is radiated into space ergo galaxy.
Black holes appear to be best candidate for an eternally existent cosmic egg type of scenario.
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@Grugore
And your belief that a lump of clay grew a dick, screwed a rib and fathered a small section of the human race makes more sense.
Good for you.
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@ethang5
Don't be ridiculous, a brain damaged garden slug can out think you.you can't out think me.
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@ethang5
You will learn.
Seig Heil.
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@Grugore
It would be interesting to know what you think 'science' and 'scientific method' refers to.
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@Grugore
+1Christians created the scientific method. Atheists have abandoned it. They believe in something that hasn't been observed, and have no idea how it could even happen. That's not science. It's dogma.
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@keithprosser
The scientific method involves testing and observation by experiments that produce repeatable results.
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@Grugore
How do people choose what to test and what experiments to do?The scientific method involves testing and observation by experiments that produce repeatable results.
Here's a clue:
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@Grugore
That is not possible with abiogenesis.
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@ethang5
What is not possible?
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@keithprosser
...testing and observation by experiments that produce repeatable results.
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@Grugore
And voila (wala for thang) no gods.
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@Grugore
And voila again, no gods.
At least you're getting repeatable results ie no gods. Good for you.
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@Grugore
Funny you're commenting on an abiogenesis forum, but in our debate of 4 rounds about abiogenesis, you couldn't even post one word...why not?
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@ethang5
Except the testable, repeatable results I provided you which you've ignored right.
Here they are again.
1. With an atmosphere, water salinity, inorganic compounds, electricity, volcanic activity, and UV rays representative of a prebiotic (before life) earth, inorganic compounds naturally become organic compounds in the form of amino acids.
2. Amino acids make up proteins, in chains called polypeptides, and the sequence of the amino acid chain causes the polypeptide to fold into a shape that is biologically active.
3. Biologically active amino acid sequences in fact metabolize compounds.
4. Amino acids are catalysts, because they increase the rate of chemical reactions, and in a prebotic network full of catalyzing amino acids and catalyzing hydrothermal vents, RNA emerges due to its auto-catalytic property.
5. RNA is also self-replicating, and because of this is able to thrive in a prebiotic amino acid network by replicating in a template-directed manner.
6. Available phosphorous in this network encapsulates and acts as a barrier for the biologically active, metabolic amino acid chains and auto-catalytic, self-replicating RNA, which, all components combined, is a collectively compartmentalized protocell.
7. These protocells can metabolize with amino acids and replicate with RNA, and this is the origin of genetic polymers.
8. A protocell with a phosphoric membrane and genetic polymers that can metabolize and self replicate is a full blown living cell, and these single cells are life; they're simple life, but they're life.
9. These simple life forms would need to eventually consume more, and the network of amino acids and other compounds in the region were in fact edible.
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@MagicAintReal
We were never in a debate. I keep asking you if you're confused. Maybe I should ask if you're awake.
I don't feed trolls. Shoo.
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@ethang5
...testing and observation by experiments that produce repeatable results.
This was your charge, that abiogenesis cannot produce repeatable result, so I list 9 produced repeatable results, and you are calling me confused.
Hey did you ever get around to responding to:
1. If god can violate logic then does he have the power to infinitely remain logical?
2. If god cannot violate logic, is he able to do anything?
I wonder why not.
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@MagicAintReal
Simple. It's because I don't like you.
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@Grugore
Simple. It's because I don't like you.
Well, that brings up two questions.
1. Why take a debate from someone you don't like?
2. Care to elaborate on why you don't like me?
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@MagicAintReal
What you posted is nothing but theory. Actually, it's nothing but a hypothesis. There is no observable evidence to support it. It's pure fantasy.
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@Grugore
What you posted is nothing but theory. Actually, it's nothing but a hypothesis. There is no observable evidence to support it. It's pure fantasy.
So then why not point that out in the debate you openly accepted?
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@MagicAintReal
You agreed to refrain from personal insults during the debate. Before the debate even started, you insulted me in another thread.
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@Grugore
What thread?
How did I insult you?
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@MagicAintReal
Playing innocent? Not gonna work.
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@Grugore
Playing innocent? Not gonna work.
Look, if I insulted you, just tell me what it was, and we can hash it out.
Why are people so non confrontational on a debate site?
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@MagicAintReal
Check your posts in your profile. I don't have the time or inclination to do it for you.
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@Grugore
Check your posts in your profile. I don't have the time or inclination to do it for you.
Ok, well i have no idea what you're talking about, and since you can't even seem to remember, it probably wasn't all that insulting, so maybe you're mistaking me for someone else, either way you flaked on our debate, yet you have no problems talking about abiogenesis here...why?
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@MagicAintReal
I do not answer to you.
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@Grugore
He believes you should be.