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Both of us appeal to authority. Do you believe that?
No. I look at the information that's independently verifiable and make a conclusion.
Information requires interpretation of the data when it comes to origins, as I have laid out in other arguments. Interpretation is biased by a worldview or confirmational bias. Since neither of us nor any human being was there to witness origins it cannot be independently verified by anything other than a model or paradigm that you or I believe best explains it. 

You say you do not appeal to authority but what is the key to your statement? It is you. You look for information. You think it is independently verifiable. You make the conclusion. You do this without all the facts. 

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 Of course, you can live life being illogical and irrationally and not tackle the issue of what makes sense. 
You also never explain in practical terms how this makes a difference in your every day life, or what I'm unable to do that you can based on this belief of yours. Or why so many people don't believe it, how are THOSE people making sense of life? If you mean "assigning cause to life," please say that, not "making sense of life's big questions." 


In practical terms - there is an inconsistency in what atheists say and what they do. 

For instance, regarding morality, many say that morality is subjective so when it comes to how one arrives at what is good it boils down to personal or group preference. That begs the question of why one subjective or relative group thinking is any better than another. And if there is no objective standard, how is goodness measured. The standard is always shifting depending on who is in power and who controls what is legislated. 

The Bible makes this point,

Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!

If an atheist does believe in objective morality what is the unchanging standard? I don't know how an atheist can provide an objective standard without reference to what is necessary for such a standard. That undermines their worldview. Thus, there is an inconsistency there. 

In practical terms, the subjective moral atheist objects to someone cutting in line in front of them but if it is just personal preference why is that wrong? Why does their personal preference outweigh mine in such a world of values (if you can call them that)? They would be living inconsistently with that standard of morality is subjective. 

For instance, how can an atheist ever say with certainty that the universe came into being via the Big Bang or that the universe is in a steady state of being? They can't so how can they say there is no God or the biblical God does not exist? What makes their limited knowledge the way things really are in such matters?

Practically, the atheist can say that conscious beings came about by chance happenstance but that is not what they witness or see in practice.  

For instance, when an atheist says there could be many gods, a God, or no God, they are again being inconsistent because many gods do not span out in the contradictions from such gods recorded in human history. 

For instance, an atheist can say 'there are no absolute truths' but such a standard undercuts itself so he can't live with it practically. Logically, the statement is self-refuting because it calls into question the very thing it states about truth. If there is no such thing as absolute truth then how can they say their statement is true? 

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Do you KNOW God that way? Can you disprove God?

He's in books. Darth Vader's in books. Why do we know him as a fictional character? His story takes place a long time ago in a different galaxy.
Your analogy sucks because the parallels are few and far between. 

Are you saying Darth is not a fictional character made up by George Lucas? If so, show me your proof for that belief.

Can you PROVE the story was not transmitted directly to George Lucas? Because I have a picture with Darth Vader, like a real one who was walking around. Do YOU have a real picture with God? Seems like I have personal proof of Darth Vader being real to me.

You have a picture of a fictitious character made up by George Lucas. Most people understand that Darth Vader is such a character as I pointed out in the Wikipedia article. They understand that to think otherwise is unreasonable. Not so with God. 

How can Darth Vader be equal? 
He is in books, he is in movies, he is in academic studies, he has magic powers.
That does not make him equal, at best similar although even that is not the case.

Vader's is a make-believe power. George Lucas did not claim to have a revelation about some real being. He made this being up.  

Millions of people throughout history have looked at Jesus as the Bible says He is, an actual Being. 

Okay, so he's not nice like people say Jesus was. But he's equal to Jesus in this way, but he's better than Jesus when it comes to having a space ship.
How does having a material object like a space ship make him better?

There's plenty of evidence that Darth Vader is at least as real as Jesus.
No, there is not. That is an assertion that you need to qualify with evidence. 


I am being only slightly facetious.
Slightly? (^8

You religious types aren't exactly world renowned for your sense of humor about stuff like this. :)
Jesus is world renown. 
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My, that was a good series of posts!

Jesus is world renown. 
You know it, and you know you know it!

The Omnipotent, Eternal, Lord of Glory, His Majestic Excellence, King Jesus is world renown!

Went to Botswana recently. While there I visited several towns. Everyone knew Jesus, No one knew Darth Vader.
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My, that was a good series of posts!

Jesus is world renown. 
You know it, and you know you know it!

The Omnipotent, Eternal, Lord of Glory, His Majestic Excellence, King Jesus is world renown!
Very true! God confirms His word in so many ways every day. Prayer has become very important lately. My sister has bone cancer and it has spread to her head. I pray for her salvation every night. It is in His hands for there is nothing I can do but trust Him. 

Went to Botswana recently. While there I visited several towns. Everyone knew Jesus, No one knew Darth Vader.
That must have been interesting. I love Africa. Excitement around every corner. I was born in Zambia (Northern Rhodesia at that time). I like Botswana. I worked in South Africa for a while. That is where my mom was born. 
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Huh? Where did this guy do that? Please highlight, here's the post just in case:
On DDO, and old posts here before he was banned.


So  not being content with breaking the rules by often cross threading quotes from the same site (this site) that you now, in further disregard and contempt for moderation and its rules, you  defiantly brag about and use quotes from a completely different site too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

I am amazed you haven't been flagged for your brazen flaunting and the utter disregard and contempt you have shown for these simple basic rules.



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I bet the mods roll their eys and do facepalms as they read your clunky posts.

Lol.

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I was born in Zambia (Northern Rhodesia at that time). I like Botswana. I worked in South Africa for a while. That is where my mom was born. 
That is so interesting to know! That helps explain the maturity in  your posts.

When I was in SA, driving on the "wrong" side of the road drove me crazy, but the weather was divine!
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I bet the mods roll their eys and do facepalms as they read your clunky posts.

 Dito princess, this has to be one of your biggest goofs ever>

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Huh? Where did this guy do that? Please highlight, here's the post just in case:
On DDO, and old posts here before he was banned.


So  not being content with breaking the rules by often cross threading quotes from the same site (this site) that you now, in further disregard and contempt for moderation and its rules, you  defiantly brag about and use quotes from a completely different site too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

I am amazed you haven't been flagged for your brazen flaunting and the utter disregard and contempt you have shown for these simple basic rules.


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It means why do we exist? What is the reason you are here? Why is there something rather than nothing? 


In order: don't know, don't know, and don't know. Without knowing these answers, it's amazing I find my way to work every day! Okay, so what are your answers? 

If you believe there is no reason why you exist why do you hold to a particular worldview that believes humanity is a chance, freak, accident but live inconsistently with such a worldview when you make things matter?
This is pretty presumptuous! How do I live inconsistently with my worldview, exactly? Things matter TO ME. I don't think they matter to the universe. I assign this meaning, and the things that mean something to me are subject to change. 

You live inconsistently when you keep looking for an explanation and meaning for life. Why should there be any?
I don't keep looking for an "explanation" or  "meaning" for life. There isn't a default meaning for everyone, if there were, such a proposition causes an issue for your worldview: Jeffrey Epstein was meant by god to live his life as a terrible monster. Harvey Weinstein was only fulfilling his godly purpose. I don't think there is any capital letter Meaning to Life. Please explain the meaning of your life in this context. 

Why are you on such a forum debating such things or at least trying to throw a monkey wrench into a belief that you oppose and believe is wrong? Why should you care? What does it matter? Can you answer these questions?
In order: bored at work and in search of civil discourse (spoiler, that's pretty fleeting). I would also distinguish between your belief being WRONG and your belief being INCORRECT and poorly founded. In the end what you believe individually is meaningless and your right. How'd I do? 
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Why MUST it be there?
What do you mean by 'it'? Do you mean 1) God, 2) necessity or 3) our existence and the universe?

Careful now, we're not at your god yet. Why is any being necessary? 

 I believe it and you are here because of the grace of God. He chose to create it and us.
This is HOW it is here, according to you. It does not in any way speak to why he'd have made it, what he is getting out of it...this is how I understand the phrase "make sense of" something that appears otherwise senseless and random. 

Start a morality topic if you want, but the rest of that stuff, we've been through a hundred times. 

And sorry you got your drawers in a bunch about Darth Vader, sheesh. I find your lack of faith disturbing. My point is that world renown isn't a measure of truth. Nor is being in a book. Nor is being in a really old book. Nor is the number of believers in anything. Any one of those arguments can be undermined by simply pointing out that Jesus isn't the only one in an old book that claims to have given him superpowers. There are always older books with claims just as dubious, there are always famous fictional characters, there are always large numbers of people who believe something you don't. 
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My sister has bone cancer and it has spread to her head.

I'm really sorry to hear that, man.  
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I am amazed you haven't been flagged for your brazen flaunting and the utter disregard and contempt you have shown for these simple basic rules.
Maybe your sleazy post will fool them into "flagging" me hey?

You'd be ecstatic if they did wouldn't you shemp? Lol.

Your bias is fooling you genius, I'm not breaking any board rules, your irrational hate is not the standard of the mods.
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Researching the different religions reveals that born again Christianity is unique compared to all others.
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Two questions: how so, and so what? All religions claim to be both unique and true, and many are older. How does what you said bear at all on if it's the one that's correct? 

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I was born in Zambia (Northern Rhodesia at that time). I like Botswana. I worked in South Africa for a while. That is where my mom was born. 
That is so interesting to know! That helps explain the maturity in  your posts.

When I was in SA, driving on the "wrong" side of the road drove me crazy, but the weather was divine!

So you know the beauty of South Africa too. Were you working in Africa or just visiting?
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Yes, they all have their unique characteristics but the Bible has the most significant ones.
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Yes, they all have their unique characteristics but the Bible has the most significant ones.

How so, and significant to whom? The majority of religious people on the planet do not find the bible compelling, because they don't believe in it. 
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My sister has bone cancer and it has spread to her head.

I'm really sorry to hear that, man.  

Thank you! I hope and pray for the best for her.
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So you know the beauty of South Africa too.
I do. It is stunning.

Were you working in Africa or just visiting?
I lived in Africa for 15 years. West Africa mostly. But I was visiting SA.

I will pray that your sister finds the only cure for cancer. Good thing you are her brother. Be strong man, Jesus is willing and able to save.
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An ode to the beautiful land of South Africa


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For instance, how can an atheist ever say with certainty that the universe came into being via the Big Bang or that the universe is in a steady state of being? They can't so how can they say there is no God or the biblical God does not exist? What makes their limited knowledge the way things really are in such matters?

Practically, the atheist can say that conscious beings came about by chance happenstance but that is not what they witness or see in practice.  


Nobody can say with absolute certainty how the universe came into being and I know of no atheist hellbent on going around trying to tell everyone else that such is the case. Yet we surely have enough preachers hellbent on promoting the idea of the "God theory" as if it were a given.

However we do have compelling evidence that there was a big bang and scientists are still researching the subject. We also have overwhelming, irrefutable evidence that life is the result of evolution by natural selection.

I think that your "did not witness" argument was poo pooed ages ago by sheer commonsense and logic.
Forensic detectives do not witness the murders they investigate yet are able to collect enough compelling evidence to convict a murderer..
Even without fossil and carbon dating evidence (of which there are mountains) we are still able to conclude evolution through natural selection by an overwhelming abundance of existing, live evidence.

So, anybody is entitled to reasonably assert that there is no such thing as God. Creation (the lynchpin of the existence of God) has been completely overturned and there is no evidence whatsoever of a God, Gods or any other supernatural phenomena. 

Nobody is entitled to reasonably assert that there is a God and anybody who does say that there is a God is being totally unreasonable.
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I am amazed you haven't been flagged for your brazen flaunting and the utter disregard and contempt you have shown for these simple basic rules.

I'm not breaking any board rules, your irrational hate is not the standard of the mods.

You have openly admitted to posting on this site, quotes  that a member here made ON ANOTHER SITE!!!!! !!!!  That is a flagrant disregard for the rules. SEE >>>

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Huh? Where did this guy do that? Please highlight, here's the post just in case:
On DDO, and old posts here before he was banned.


So  not being content with breaking the rules by often cross threading quotes from the same site (this site) that you now, in further disregard and contempt for moderation and its rules, you  defiantly brag about and use quotes from a completely different site too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

I am amazed you haven't been flagged by the OP for your personal attack on him and your brazen flaunting and the utter disregard and contempt you have shown for these simple basic rules.


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You have openly admitted to posting on this site, quotes  that a member here made ON ANOTHER SITE!!!!! !!!!  
Post the quote then that this member here made ON ANOTHER SITE!!!!! !!!! that I quoted here. Can you do that genius?

Do you actually think multiple exclamation marks will make you seem less loony?

Posting comments from another site is not necessarily a violation of the rule genius. Virtually every thread has quotes from other sites.

Let the mods do their job. If they needed you, they would have asked you to mod. Your reading comprehension is way too poor for you to judge what others write.

Focus on the thread topics and what you want to say about it. Stop trying to play keystone cop. Ask a mod to explain the rule to you so that you stop embarrassing yourself.
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Nobody can say with absolute certainty how the universe came into being and I know of no atheist hellbent on going around trying to tell everyone else that such is the case. Yet we surely have enough preachers hellbent on promoting the idea of the "God theory" as if it were a given.

Dawkins and Hitchens are/were a couple who fervently believed and preached this so-called fact. 

However we do have compelling evidence that there was a big bang and scientists are still researching the subject. We also have overwhelming, irrefutable evidence that life is the result of evolution by natural selection.

Nobody can say with absolute certainty how things originated but then you make absolute statements about origins. 

I think that your "did not witness" argument was poo pooed ages ago by sheer commonsense and logic.
Forensic detectives do not witness the murders they investigate yet are able to collect enough compelling evidence to convict a murderer..
Even without fossil and carbon dating evidence (of which there are mountains) we are still able to conclude evolution through natural selection by an overwhelming abundance of existing, live evidence.


Forensics on its own cannot determine an individuals guilt it has to be combined with other types of evidence, for instance all a murderer has to do to confuse forensics is spread all kinds of hair and other contaminents throughout the murder scene.Forensics can never assign guilt to a specific individual.

 What scientists consider to be direct observation to pre-historical events defies common sense

So, anybody is entitled to reasonably assert that there is no such thing as God. Creation (the lynchpin of the existence of God) has been completely overturned and there is no evidence whatsoever of a God, Gods or any other supernatural phenomena. 

Science has made many questionable interpretations of the evidence for deep time and many have dared to question these interpretations of the evidence while still remaining staunch evolutionists.


Nobody is entitled to reasonably assert that there is a God and anybody who does say that there is a God is being totally unreasonable.


Nobody can reasonably assert that there is no God and anyone who does say there is no God is being totally unreasonable.
People are entitled to assert whatever they want to actually. 

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It means why do we exist? What is the reason you are here? Why is there something rather than nothing? 
In order: don't know, don't know, and don't know. Without knowing these answers, it's amazing I find my way to work every day! Okay, so what are your answers? 
That is the point, you don't know why you exist and you can't know unless God has revealed to you why we exist. So, you can function quite nicely in the world but have no idea why you are here. Will relativism and subjectivity give you the answers? What is concrete about that? If you believe no one can know why we exist then I believe it is because you do not believe in God and He has not revealed Himself to you personally, in a mindful way and in a relational way that He continually confirms His identity. Again, the Christian has what is NECESSARY for certainty. God's existence and revelation would grant that. That would be an all-knowing God revealing to us that which is certain, for He cannot lie. Now you can disagree that the Christian can have absolute certainty, just like Salixes (Post 82) but again I have certainty, as have many others down through the corridor of time. Of course, you can question my sanity or think I am delusional but then I would ask you have you experienced a relationship with God or are you speaking outside such context?

We know that God does not hear sinners; but if anyone is God-fearing and does His will, He hears him.

What is His will? To know Jesus who has borne our sins in whose righteousness we stand before God. So how we achieve that will is not by our own works (what we do) but through the works of Jesus.

Therefore they said to Him, “What shall we do, so that we may work the works of God?”

Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent.”

For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes in Him will have eternal life, and I Myself will raise him up on the last day.”

So, the knowledge of God comes through His Son. That knowledge comes through belief in that Son and in everything He has done.

[ Oneness with the Father ] If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; from now on you know Him, and have seen Him.”

This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.

Do you really think that worldly knowledge is wise?

1 Corinthians 1:20-24 (NASB)
20 Where is the wise man? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? 21 For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God was well-pleased through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe. 22 For indeed Jews ask for signs and Greeks search for wisdom; 23 but we preach Christ crucified, to Jews a stumbling block and to Gentiles foolishness, 24 but to those who are the called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.

Thus, knowing God starts with a step of faith in believing His Word, that He exists and is a rewarder those who believe.

For who has known the mind of the Lord, that he will instruct Him? But we have the mind of Christ.

Do you not know that you are a temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?

God's Spirit confirms with our spirits that we are members of His family. The Christian faith is a knowing faith for those who have believed the message! Even as it was back then when Paul penned these words, so it is today,


16 However, they did not all heed the good news; for Isaiah says, “Lord, who has believed our report?” 17 So faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ. - Romans 10:16-17 (NASB)

I cannot help you believe. Do you hear the message? That is between you and God. All I can do is point you to the way.

John 14:5-7 (NASB)
5 Thomas *said to Him, “Lord, we do not know where You are going, how do we know the way?” 6 Jesus *said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.
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7 If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; from now on you know Him, and have seen Him.”

So, you hear these truths. What will you do with them? Will your heart be soft or hard towards God?

Hebrews 11:6 (NASB)
6 And without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is and that He is a rewarder of those who seek Him.

God rewards our faith with our belief in Jesus Christ. He sends His Spirit to give us new life, eternal life. It starts with an understanding that God exists, we have wronged God, we are sorry, and that we are willing to repent and turn to Him through the means He has given. 

Romans 10:8-13 (NASB)
8 But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart”—that is, the word of faith which we are preaching, 9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; 10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes in Him will not be disappointed.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; 13 for “Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

Do you hear God speaking to you? I will leave that between God and you to answer.
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If you believe there is no reason why you exist why do you hold to a particular worldview that believes humanity is a chance, freak, accident but live inconsistently with such a worldview when you make things matter?
This is pretty presumptuous! How do I live inconsistently with my worldview, exactly? Things matter TO ME. I don't think they matter to the universe.
Do you not think that is an anomaly, an inconsistency? If there is no God then we are alone in an indifferent universe and what we do has no impact on this indifferent universe. So, in effect, you are supplying meaning to the meaningless. Why do you care? Just eat, drink, and be merry for tomorrow you die. 

If from human motives I fought with wild beasts at Ephesus, what does it profit me? If the dead are not raised, let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we die.

On the one hand, you believe that none of this really matters for as you say, the universe does not care, then you live life as though your existence and the existence of others do matter. You want to make it matter. That would not be consistent with a meaningless universe to make the meaningless matter, would it?

The Christian worldview, on the other hand, says that our existence matters because we have been placed here for a purpose, and that purpose it that some of us would discover that meaning and purpose for our existence - God. So, Christianity is not at odds with meaning. God is a meaningful Being and He has made us in His image and likeness. It is meaningful to us to love, and no greater love is there than discovering the love of God. 

So our worldview has a consistency to it. It does not mascarade behind meaninglessness. It seeks that meaning and purpose. 

I assign this meaning, and the things that mean something to me are subject to change. 

You live inconsistently when you keep looking for an explanation and meaning for life. Why should there be any?
I don't keep looking for an "explanation" or  "meaning" for life. There isn't a default meaning for everyone, if there were, such a proposition causes an issue for your worldview: Jeffrey Epstein was meant by god to live his life as a terrible monster.
No, he was not meant by God to do such things. God calls everyone to live a life without sin. Since we cannot do that in ourselves the way to do so is through the grace and mercy of His Son.  Epstein chose to live his life as a monster because he chose not to heed God's words. 

Harvey Weinstein was only fulfilling his godly purpose.
No, he was not. Show me how that was God's purpose. He went against God's purpose. He chose to do things his way. He placed himself above God's good counsel. 

I don't think there is any capital letter Meaning to Life. Please explain the meaning of your life in this context.
In your context, there is no capital meaning. It is just what you and others make up. Some find meaning in hurtful desires, in hurting others. Some people find meaning is divergent sexual behaviour, like the two people you cite, others in greed and money or some other idol. These wants fall short of true happiness or peace. The meaning of my life is derived in God, to seek and find His Son that I may have life in abundance, that I would be restored to a meaningful relationship with God, that I may experience His joy and majesty, know His peace and the plans to help me, not hurt me. 


Why are you on such a forum debating such things or at least trying to throw a monkey wrench into a belief that you oppose and believe is wrong? Why should you care? What does it matter? Can you answer these questions?
In order: bored at work and in search of civil discourse (spoiler, that's pretty fleeting).
Very true. It is fleeting. It does not last. God promises believers something that will last and fulfill our hearts in love and joy.  

Funny though, you find this outlet that discusses meaning and questions religion as true while all the time saying you do not know what is true regarding our existence and that ultimately nothing matters while you make it matter for this fleeting life.

You may suppose that the only reason for "meaning" is a survival instinct. But can you then condemn someone who feels otherwise, who does not find your meaning of life and just wants to kill you over a difference of opinion? No, you think that is wrong. But how is it wrong when our environment and biological factors, our genetics, are random chance happenstance which determines our behaviour and that ultimately means nothing? How do you get morality from such randomness?

Why should we want to survive? The evolutionary principle of 'survival of the fittest' does not mean that the fit survives because they want to survive, it means that those who are deemed the fittest are those who do survive. You may argue that they survive because they want to survive but it is not them that determines that but their genetic makeup and how able that makeup aids them in adapting to their environment. Your caring means nothing to a hungry lion or an angry, hateful, cruel person. 

I would also distinguish between your belief being WRONG and your belief being INCORRECT and poorly founded. In the end what you believe individually is meaningless and your right. How'd I do? 
How do you know my belief is wrong? Have you tested it as to what Scripture says? Do you know God that you can say it is wrong? You admit you don't know. You think it is incorrect and poorly founded because you build your belief upon something that does not last and is fleeting. 
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The Bible treats death as the enemy,Virtually all others see death as a good thing.

Salvation is a gift which people cannot earn, others say one has to earn it.

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You know those bible verses are just words to me, no one's demonstrated they're any different from words in any other book. So I'm not going to address them, I've heard them all, I went to church for a long time. But you missed my questions, that's the only reason I'm back. Try again. They're actually your questions.

It means why do we exist? What is the reason you are here? Why is there something rather than nothing?

I answered. 

If there is no God then we are alone in an indifferent universe and what we do has no impact on this indifferent universe. 
What we do has not one iota of impact on the universe. Not one. It doesn't care at all. But what I do has an impact on people I care about, on my community...why wouldn't I care about that? Are you one of these people who think the only thing holding people back from anarchy and raping their way through the day is Jesus?

No, he was not. Show me how that was God's purpose. He went against God's purpose. He chose to do things his way. He placed himself above God's good counse
Well...then was God completely surprised by these two and their behavior? Didn't he know they'd do this when he made them? If he did know and still made them, and his plan was in order, then they only did what god knew they'd do. Well, unless you can tell me for sure what god's purpose was that either Weinstein or Epstein went AGAINST. In my view, they're just monsters who deserve every scintilla of punishment that could be exacted (well, one is now dead, so that's a moot point). In your world, Jesus made them to do what they did and we should be thankful. It's bizarre. 

Why should we want to survive? The evolutionary principle of 'survival of the fittest' does not mean that the fit survives because they want to survive, it means that those who are deemed the fittest are those who do survive. You may argue that they survive because they want to survive but it is not them that determines that but their genetic makeup and how able that makeup aids them in adapting to their environment. Your caring means nothing to a hungry lion or an angry, hateful, cruel person. 

This reflects a pretty bleak view of life and of mankind, none of which I agree with, not to mention a misunderstanding of the principle survival of the fittest and the evolutionary primary goal, survival. Let me help. Survival of the fittest is more like survival of the bare minimum to survive. it's why we have vestigial organs, or why there are so many weird forms of life, not just a single one. Individuals want to survive because if you didn't, you don't get to pass on your DNA (soi in essence, DNA wants to replicate above all else). And no, me caring doesn't mean shit to a lion.