for what purpose exactly?We could go with:"freedom from disturbance; tranquility."or"a state or period in which there is no war or a war has ended."
Why add the purpose now since you didn't say it earlier?
Isn't is call the peace plan and isn't that what Trump wants?I don't understand why you are focusing on the word peace.
Trump is saying he has released a peace plan. But since the Palestinians are obviously not even going to talk to them about this, it clearly is not.
Why would a discussion about the definition of the word peace be relevant?
Isn't is call the peace plan and isn't that what Trump wants?
Can their be peace without Palestine accepting it?
Isn't it call the peace plan?
Why?Can their be peace without Palestine accepting it?no.
Yes, but since one side isn't even going to discuss it
Can their be peace without Palestine accepting it?no.Why?
Does peace require both sides to agree?
If Israel wanted to they can genocide Palestine right? That means only 1 part is left therefore will be at "peace". correct? Do you agree that will create peace in Israel and Palestine area?If 2 groups are fighting and one side is continuing to fight, then that isn't peace. You cannot unilaterally impose peace on people. Especially america trying to impose peace on the middle east by taking Israel's side on every issue.
yes. If one side is continuing to fight, in what way is it peace?
The Trump plan declared "support" for an independent, sovereign State of Palestine with a capital on the outskirts of East Jerusalem. The plan would involve the creation of a Palestinian state with a capital in East Jerusalem, dependent on Palestinians taking steps to become self-governing.
The Trump plan declared "support" for an independent, sovereign State of Palestine with a capital on the outskirts of East Jerusalem. The plan would involve the creation of a Palestinian state with a capital in East Jerusalem, dependent on Palestinians taking steps to become self-governing.Silly goose.
It's so funny the naysayer logic from the Orangemanbad crowd.Palestine doesn't care about Oranges.
If Israel wanted to they can genocide Palestine right? That means only 1 part is left therefore will be at "peace". correct? Do you agree that will create peace in Israel and Palestine area?
Do you agree if Israel really wanted "peace" they would've done so already or another way of saying this, if there was a war between Palestine and Israel who would win?
Because of the Religious backing towards it with similar to the Palestinians?You kind of hit on my point. Israel doesn't want peace. They want to occupy as much of Palestine as they can.
If they agreed to a peace deal and put down lines, then they would have to give back alot of the land they have stolen and stop stealing more.
But since trump and his team are willing to back literally everything on Israel's wish list for screwing over the palestinians, Israel is signing onto the plan.
The U.S. has been using military violence in an attempt to end supposed nonsense for decades now and got nowhere.
The only real diplomatic solution to the problem would be if the Israelis were to remove themselves form the region.
As I have suggested before an area of the Southern U.S. would do just fine for them.
Especially as you are all such great pals.
Because of the Religious backing towards it with similar to the Palestinians?
Why does stealing matter when there isn't a unification on the law on either side?
Do you understand that Israel is helpful to the US which is why they are support them?
Can you make an argument that isn't moral?
The main reasons they don't want peace are political.
They are occupying and settling land they do not own. That is theft. Most of the world acknowledges those settlements are illegal.
That's the same argument the US used to back dictators and despots all over the world. And just as in those cases, taking israel's side on every issue is only prolonging conflict and killing people.
Supporting Israel's continuing the abuse of innocent people and outright theft because it is politically expedient? I don't see how that could be moral at all.
The only real diplomatic solution to the problem would be if the Israelis were to remove themselves from the region.
Political because of either sides supposed past grievances which is covered with Religion?
Most of the world doesn't matter if they are not the people apart of the ordeal. Are they working under the same laws or not? Does Israel consider it theft?
I never asked this do you see how the US are more helped supporting Israel than Palestine?
I said make an argument that isn't based on morality instead money, control or some other metric. Can you?
So if I asked a Palestinian or Israeli: What do you care about more, a political party or a Religion. What do you think they would say?There are certainly religious aspects to it. Access to religious holy sites for example. But I would argue it is much more about politics, land and power than religion.
lol is that a joke? Just because a thief doesn't consider it theft, doesn't mean it isn't theft. Of course Israel doesn't consider it theft. Almost everyone else disagrees.
No, not really. If the region were peaceful and not wracked by conflict america would benefit. Backing one side over the other and then pretending to be neutral only undermines american interests.
America spends huge sums of money propping up israel. They have spent decades pissing off arab powers in the region. This has created tensions, death and destruction for decades. This is not good for america or anyone else. Peace is good for business.
So if I asked a Palestinian or Israeli: What do you care about more, a political party or a Religion. What do you think they would say?
They don't accept the same standards. Where is this court that is above both Israel and Palestine?
How would America benefit from peace?
You do understand the huge sums of money is being sent because the US is getting something out of it right?
They wouldn't have to send massive amount of aid to the Israelis or the Palestinians.
This statement sounds like a John Boltonism.America shouldn't be obligated to do jackshit.
Again with the shouldism'sLet Boltonism die off already.
With what money?They are a large country with a big population. The US has been trying to destroy Iran for decades. They have been applying "maximum pressure" for a long time. It didn't work and it isn't going to.
Hadn't you been watching the protests and riots in Iran before Soleimani was killed? And have you not seen how happy they were when the news of his death broke? Iran is practically on its knees , you obviously just don't know it.
There were massive protests about soleimani's murder. Did you not see those?
that is a loaded question. If you asked a republican what is more important, religion or policy, alot of them are going to say religion. But then if you looked at their record that would not be the case.
again, so just because there isn't a court that can try them for their theft, that means it isn't theft? That is a pretty terrible argument.
They wouldn't have to send massive amount of aid to the Israelis or the Palestinians. They would get enhanced trade opportunities. Less conflict would likely lead to less attack on american troops and their allies in the region. There are countless ways america would benefit from peace.
What exactly do you think america is getting out of it?
A bad Christian is still a Christian.
The problem with Israel and Palestine I don't think they agree on laws cross country lines so it isn't theft.
Do you know the benefits of conflict?
If you say there are no benefits then I'll say stuff.
