South Park Mafia DP3

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@drafterman
Any word from pressf?
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@Lunatic
I never really saw anything where drafter thought iron was town last DP, only that he didn't see evidence of him being scum
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@Vader
I mean, if a role cop investigated a goon, would the role cop get "Goon" or "vanilla" back?
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@Singularity
Here's a question for you

Why would mafia kill a dreamer over a JOAT
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@Lunatic
If Singularity is not dead next DP, we should lynch him. There's no other logical choice for an NK, because Grey WILL be watched or doctored

Thoughts?
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@Speedrace
 now my mind is blown
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@Singularity
You wanna elaborate?
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@Speedrace
I never really saw anything where drafter thought iron was town last DP, only that he didn't see evidence of him being scum
Yeah, he was buddying toaster because it was convenient for him, and now is using his innocence to his advantage. This whole thing is just really shady. Have you considered the possibility that drafter could be scum? What did you think about the "peer pressure" argument, where he is saying it's status qou to claim without pressure, where very recently he was against this (and currently is)?

If Singularity is not dead next DP, we should lynch him. There's no other logical choice for an NK, because Grey WILL be watched or doctored

Thoughts?
Didn't he claim to use both protections? And if singularity is scum, then there will be no watching being done. There is a possibility one of them is scum, or mafia really just have some OP roles and don't care about these power roles. I can see why a dreamer would be targeted though over a cop if they have a lawyer/framer, because you don't just find one scum with that role, you confirm two townies. I definitely commend that play, and see you as town. 
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@Speedrace
I don't know about singularity. Her logic has been all over the place, I can't really pin a town motivation out of it. If I were forced to lynch her or greyparrot, I would go for singularity, mostly on the basis that she used protections instead of watcher results, so we literally have 0 results to confirm her. Tomorrow I think she will have to be the lynch though. I would reallu like to see drafter lynched.

I am unsure about bullish now too given his reverse on drafter based on next to nothing, compared to how hard he was going on drafter dp1 for also basically nothing.
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@Greyparrot
Why would I have any word from press?
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@drafterman
Ok. Town doesn't really give a shit either way. They're not going to lynch me based on your bullshit and they're not going to lynch you based on your bullshit either.
You keep saying that, maybe you are right that you won't be lynched, but it won't be for my lack of trying. Town has been split since DP1.

Also it was fairly easy for any non-idiot to see that irontoaster was town.
Easy to say after the fact, with little reasoning behind the absurd statement to back it up. His activity would have been a long term harm to town and he would have always been scum read for it, his lynching was a benefit for town in the long run.
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@Speedrace
Ignore lunatic. He's scum. All last phase I was defending iron because he was my power role scum partner. Now that he flipped town I was defending him because I knew he was town. Lunatic is just twisting the evidence to fit the narrative that I'm scum regardless of what happens.
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@drafterman
All last phase you were saying is that he lynching him based on inactivity wasn't enough, you weren't saying he was town until after he flipped town. You just buddied him because you knew he was town because your scum.
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@Lunatic
I thought I defended him because he was my power role scum partner?
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Still not sure on water either, his spirit is lacking this game, I don't sense a genuine town drive to find scum. Press was active late DP1 and also seemed to have lost interest.


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@drafterman
I thought I defended him because he was my power role scum partner?
Your motivations to defend someone for next to no reason are anyone's guess, that was just one theory.
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@Lunatic
So I'm scum because I defended him and I defended him because I'm scum, regardless of his affiliation. How circular.
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So I'm scum because I defended him and I defended him because I'm scum, regardless of his affiliation. How circular.
Those are your words not mine.

Pretty simple, you defended someone who's inactivity was anti-town. There was no reason to think that he was town based on posting next to nothing.

Now you are saying that you knew he was town the whole time, and are stating we are all idiots for not seeing it lol. Your taking credit for having inside knowledge, only scum would know he is town when he's posted nothing.
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@Lunatic
Those are your words not mine.
I am paraphrasing your argument.

Pretty simple, you defended someone who's inactivity was anti-town. There was no reason to think that he was town based on posting next to nothing.
There was no reason to think he was scum, either. And yet you pushed for his lynch over someone you thought was scum.

Now you are saying that you knew he was town the whole time,
No I'm not.
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I am paraphrasing your argument.
The you purposely are pretending my argument is something else, when we both know what it really is.

There was no reason to think he was scum, either. And yet you pushed for his lynch over someone you thought was scum.
Inactivity is a very common reason to scum read someone, especially in light of recent games. And OMGUS is also a common thing scum do when cornered. His first reaction and post was to basically counter vote me for pushing him for inactivity lol. Also aren't you the one who keeps saying "I'm not gonna get lynched?" If you aren't gonna get lynched why would I not target someone who is also scummier and more likely to get lynched right away?

No I'm not.

"Also it was fairly easy for any non-idiot to see that irontoaster was town."

Based on what then?
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@Speedrace
This is up to you determine what a role cop does and what a cop does

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@Lunatic
Inactivity is a very common reason to scum read someone, especially in light of recent games.
No it isn't.

And OMGUS is also a common thing scum do when cornered. His first reaction and post was to basically counter vote me for pushing him for inactivity lol.
Except you weren't voting him because you thought he was scum. So why are you all of a sudden providing these reasons why you were voting him as scum?

Also aren't you the one who keeps saying "I'm not gonna get lynched?" If you aren't gonna get lynched why would I not target someone who is also scummier and more likely to get lynched right away?
As a Town person believing me as scum, that wouldn't hold you back. As scum unable to force a mislynch on an active townie, it would be practical for you to force a mislynch on an inactive townie unable to defend themselves. Your actions make more sense as scum than town.

"Also it was fairly easy for any non-idiot to see that irontoaster was town."

Based on what then?

Based the fact that scum (you) was opportunistically pushing his lynch based on nothing. I've had farts with more substance than the case against toaster.
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@drafterman
I think we should hop on drafters back and ride him to an easy town victory.
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@Greyparrot
It's be nice, but half the active players are scum and the other half couldn't be arsed to read anything.


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No it isn't.
Your right, we should just never make an inactive post ever. Your totally right.

"This is a common refrain. An active town will eat itself in the presence of inactive scum. Inactives should always be pressured."

"Lynch all inactives."

Not sure where I heard these statements, the guy who said them definitely didn't know what he was talking about though.

Except you weren't voting him because you thought he was scum. So why are you all of a sudden providing these reasons why you were voting him as scum?
I voted for him for activity, and when he was active. he OMGUS'ed, so I kept my vote on him. This is all very public and happened as is, no reasons have been "suddenly" provided lol

As a Town person believing me as scum, that wouldn't hold you back. As scum unable to force a mislynch on an active townie, it would be practical for you to force a mislynch on an inactive townie unable to defend themselves. Your actions make more sense as scum than town.
If have the option of lynching two people I believe are scum, and one is easier to lynch than the other, why wouldn't I go for the easier one who is gonna nag at me the whole game? I was voting toaster before I even scum read you.

Based the fact that scum (you) was opportunistically pushing his lynch based on nothing. I've had farts with more substance than the case against toaster.
You definitely mis-used "oppertunistic" in this case. I was pressuring Irontoaster since DP1 without luck, and it didn't seem likely he was getting lynched dp2 either. Oro's surprise hammer was more "oppertunistic" than my 2 day siege against him. I have had farts that had better reasoning for thinking someone is town, then you had for toaster.
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@drafterman
We killed off the most inactive town tho.
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@Lunatic
As a Town person believing me as scum, that wouldn't hold you back. As scum unable to force a mislynch on an active townie, it would be practical for you to force a mislynch on an inactive townie unable to defend themselves. Your actions make more sense as scum than town.
If have the option of lynching two people I believe are scum, and one is easier to lynch than the other, why wouldn't I go for the easier one who is gonna nag at me the whole game? I was voting toaster before I even scum read you.
You didn't believe toaster was scum, you went on him because he was inactive.


Based the fact that scum (you) was opportunistically pushing his lynch based on nothing. I've had farts with more substance than the case against toaster.
You definitely mis-used "oppertunistic" in this case. I was pressuring Irontoaster since DP1 without luck, and it didn't seem likely he was getting lynched dp2 either. Oro's surprise hammer was more "oppertunistic" than my 2 day siege against him. I have had farts that had better reasoning for thinking someone is town, then you had for toaster.
I suppose if you can't be clever on your own the next best thing is to copy someone else.
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@Greyparrot
You've lynched exactly one person. 1 person can't be "most" of anything.

Press is inactive.

Pie is inactive.

Water is inactive.

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You didn't believe toaster was scum, you went on him because he was inactive
I pressured him because he was inactive. I lynched him because the only thing je did when he was active was instantly omgus rather than tske responsibility for his activity. You are sifting and picking and choosing through reality to fit this story to your narrative.

I suppose if you can't be clever on your own the next best thing is to copy someone else.
Speaking of being clever, how did I fucking know the one part of my last post you weren't going to respond to was the part where I highlighted you as a huge hypocrite? Lol. That's convienently the part that made my scum read on you heighten in dp2. Lmao
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You guys realize that drafter literally made that post about always lynching inactives on christmas day? He was town in that game. That wasn't very long ago at all. less than two weeks. And he is already pretty much arguing the exact opposite of that post now, that inactivity is a weak thing to push for. What happened to the new policy of lynch all inactives?