South Park Mafia DP2

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@drafterman
He's played before, many times.

He is well versed on strategy.

That shows he's lying about his experience because he wants to be undercover, I am still not sure why that would make him scum though. 
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@drafterman
whatever you say. 
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@Lunatic
Because his mafia experience has nothing to do with his identity. He can be a new person on this site with mafia experience.

There is no benefit to his anonymity to lying about his Mafia experience, it only presents an in game advantage.

And that advantage disproportionately benefits a scum player (because other players like yourself are willing to overlook his actions) than a town player (who'd want the benefit of experience in convincing other people to make appropriate lynches).
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And I have to reiterate, that this isn't a suspicion. I know for a fact that he is an experienced mafia player and people need to pressure him more for his lying and force him to come clean.
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@drafterman
So because he is playing on an alt he is automatically scum... Cool. Despite being the only claimed protective role and having a strong character claim, I suppose you will try and lynch him. Good luck then.
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So because he is playing on an alt he is automatically scum...
That is not what I said, no.

My issue is he is lying about his mafia skill to avoid scrutiny. That is scummy. It's more scummy that you're just willing to give him that pass. So I think it says more about your own affiliation than his, but I still want him to come clean.

He's claimed watcher. If he has an incriminating watcher report, that requires us to trust him. I don't trust him because he is openly and unabashedly deceiving town.

Cool. Despite being the only claimed protective role and having a strong character claim, I suppose you will try and lynch him. Good luck then.
We don't know how the characters cut thematically, so there are not "strong" character claims. He he claimed JOAT, which is typically more scum sided.


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Your wagon doesn't have much logic or momentum I'd rather lynch iron.
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@WaterPhoenix
Why?
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Only voting wagons that already have momentum is silly in this game. You have to be willing to help wagons generate momentum.
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Okay, so we only have 5 people actually willing to vote anything. And at least 2 of those are scum. Jesus.
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@drafterman
If all four of you are town I'm quitting life.

We will lynch you first.
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Drafter is okay with irontoaster lurking and wants to lynch our only protective role lol. He's so scum.
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Drafter is okay with irontoaster lurking and wants to lynch our only protective role lol. He's so scum.
You want to lynch an inactive over scum. And I want to pressure Singularity to come clean and for you to stop giving him a noob pass.


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@Greyparrot
You won't. You really really won't.
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You want to lynch an inactive over scum. And I want to pressure Singularity to come clean and for you to stop giving him a noob pass.
Whats singularity going to come out about? 

"Oh you got me I am not new" 

We already knew that. Doesn't mean he is scum. 
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@Lunatic
If you know that, then why are you giving him a noob pass?

Why do you want to Lynch and inactive over scum?

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@drafterman
Your main reason for lynching him is "he won't tell us if he's played mafia before".

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If you know that, then why are you giving him a noob pass?
A I'm giving him a doctor pass, seeing as he is our fucking protective role.

Why do you want to Lynch and inactive over scum?
I'd rather lynch you but toaster doesn't get to sneak by in the shadows without voting, or even having any reads. Either the mod replaces him or we lynch him
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Your main reason for lynching him is "he won't tell us if he's played mafia before".

Yeah this is pretty much the only reason, is fucking garbage.
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@WaterPhoenix
Your main reason for lynching him is "he won't tell us if he's played mafia before".

Yeah this is pretty much the only reason, is fucking garbage.
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@WaterPhoenix
Why dont you actually play the game and vote?
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@Lunatic
So inactive trumps scum in your book?
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For the record since you all seem intent on misrepresenting my view. I don't think he's scum because he's an alt. I don't think he should be lynched because he won't tell us about his mafia experience. I think he should come clean and be honest about his experience instead of actively and openly deceiving the town.

No one has yet to provide any argument as to why we should just let somebody openly and unabashedly lie to the town so that they can get free noob passes.

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So inactive trumps scum in your book?

The two aren't neccesarily exclusive, but yes. I am not wanting another GP situation. Mods need to take responsibility and replace a player, otherwise it's in our hands to deal with it as a matter of principal. If Toaster is scum and gets away with the whole game because he lurked, ima smash my keyboard.
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And this is starting to irritate me. If no one else is willing to pressure him, and he isn't willing to come clean, then I'm seriously going to think about coming clean for him.
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@Lunatic
Lol. And if he's town then you've given mafia a free lynch
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@Singularity
If you don't come clean about your experience this day phase I'm outing you next phase.

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@drafterman
Lol. And if he's town then you've given mafia a free lynch
Mod should have replaced the fvcker I guess. It's a double edged sword.

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@drafterman
Then why would we lynch him instead of pressuring him?? And here, I'll make a useful vote rooting out inactives.

VTL Iron

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@Lunatic
So you're going to punish town because you don't like what the mod is doing?
Sounds like a reasonable thing a totally town player would do.