Is god real?

This is why I like you soo much lol.

If I may interject, may I ask you what you consider Christianity? I would narrow it down to the Gospels themselves just curious what you think though, your thoughts on it minus all the dogma and interpretations.

Here's a good way to look at it. Unlike Mopac I'll be taking Jesus' position and not trying to justify religion or any organized religious institutions. If you have no problem with say...the Gospels or the teachings of Jesus consider what he taught from somebody that was an expertise in the arena of understanding God and all that it implies, a teacher in other words and from teachers is how we gain knowledge and insights.

Erasing all the claims of religious institutions and everyone asserting they have some inerrant understanding of the Gospels, approaching them for yourself what is it that you gain from reading the Gospels? what do you think the message is? do you like it?

You see, the actual teachings and examples are there to connect you to that reality so the evidence is in the application of it. To wait for evidence that supports the Gospels is safe, but not smart. The evidence is in the teachings and the way Jesus exemplifies Himself, the teachings are to be applied and the principles observed that is how you come to the conclusion they are legit. If you wait for something that may never surface you may miss what's being taught, or you may overlook it because you are hesitating.

It's not that you need to become some Christian per say, especially some form of religious Christian like many proselytize rather it is another way of interacting with reality and what you think you know. The teachings of Jesus are there to help you understand the nature of spirituality vs the nature of the carnal mind and desires just like many other paths of spirituality.

They are there to help you transcend what you normally think and act on, what you normally experience. In this sense it's more an application and not a religion or set of beliefs. Religion is actually irrelevant, basically you replace Jesus with yourself when you read the Gospels....minus getting crucified lol.

Again, you have to treat the Gospels as if they are the source of evidence..... that's not circular reasoning because where you have application you also have observation. And where you have observation you have your evidence.

I think if you observe the teachings of Jesus you will also find sound reasoning therein, because therein is the wisdom of what it means to abide under the shadow of the Almighty. It would be like plugging directly into a power source but not through religion, not tradition and certainly not pressure from some silly so-called authority that you need to join or become a follower of. The only thing you would be obligated to do from a spiritual perspective is to apply things to yourself, to be flexible and teachable to truth outside of what you think you know. But that is how you learn and gain things and it's no different with spirituality you have to be willing to submit to another way of doing things. 

More than likely you will never find any good reasoning or evidence for the God of the Bible, rather you will find good reasoning and evidence to accept God exists and then you will see that there is good reasoning behind what Jesus teaches, different approach with the same things in mind. 

It depends on what aspect of Christianity you're looking at. For some, it's a series of moral guidelines. For others, it's a way to explain the unknown. I consider it to be a religion, along with all of the other religions. There's nothing inherently wrong with it.

I agree that Jesus and his disciples, along with the other gospels do teach some good moral lessons. But if you're saying that Jesus (or the others) have proven God's existence, then I would need to see evidence of it, and scrutinize it.

I haven't read the gospels in their entirety, but I can say that they give good moral teachings.

So how exactly do the gospels prove God's existence?

I don't disagree with the teachings. I'm just thinking about this thing from a neutral, critical perspective. I don't deny the possibility of God existing.

I'll have to read into the teachings more, but thinking from a critical perspective, I don't see any evidence, yet.

I haven't yet found good reasoning and evidence that God exists. That's why I'm here, to seek out the evidence for myself. But I can't jump to conclusions, and until I do find some good reasoning and evidence, I cannot say, with certainty, that God does exist.

That's extremely convenient for you  then , eh.. But then it  does leave the question of how do you know that a god or gods exist if "the nature of the Creator eludes our immediate physical sense perceptions"? 

And did  those  biblical characters have  special  "sense perceptions"  that we today no longer posses?

When you leave this physical body

From what I got from our dialogue (which has been quite enjoyable), I see that you were first a theist, and then you became a Christian. May I ask how you became a theist in the first place?