Never Argue with Religious People

What do you mean by that? My motive is and has been clear as a blue sky from day one. I question what the the believers believe in and expect them to be able to answer without relying on supernatural explanations.

I expect you have probably answered this elsewhere, but if someone believes in a divine being who intervenes divinely into the world, why should they answer without relying on supernatural explanations? 

You should never argue with religious people because they have magic on their side. When you have magic on your side literally anything you can think of is possible. So, never argue with religious people, unless of course you find it amusing.

"that is the best argument for creation I have heard yet."

God requires magic. That's the widest gap in the hypothesis.

As I always state, all hypotheses start at 1 and ignore 0.

So explain 0 to God and I will start to take you seriously.

Define  "divine". My understanding is that divine means god or god - like

When you have magic on your side literally anything you can think of is possible.

Define  "divine". My understanding is that divine means god or god - like

That definition works for me. At least in the short term. 

why should they answer without relying on supernatural explanations? 

because it has to be proven that the god or god-like being has supernatural powers, it has to be established where these powers come from or if indeed "supernatural powers " were simply misunderstood happenings with reasonable scientific explanations or enigmatic metaphors.

Example: Jesus raised the dead? No he didn't raise the literal dead. Those outside of his circle were called the dead, when they had been through the initiation ceremony of being raised to another level of initiation and entered into his circle they became the living. As both those two enigmatic verses of " come let us go and die with him" John 11:16  and "let the dead bury the dead"   Matthew 8:22 .  If these two enigmatic verses are to be taken literally then they make absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Why would these disciples want to llterally die". And how can "the dead bury the dead" literally?. 

No magic needed? Okay then, explain to us the physics of your god.

You should never argue with religious people because they have magic on their side. When you have magic on your side literally anything you can think of is possible.

This is too general to be accurate. Religion alone doesn't keep people from being reasonable or from being reasoned with. If it did, then no one would ever de-convert. Some believers can be extremely dogmatic and may distrust anyone who believes differently. Reasoning with these folks may be a lost cause. However, this is a subset of believers much like anti-theists are a subset of atheists. Let's not pigeonhole believers based on the most extreme examples of theism.

In short, don't push away reasonable people by being unreasonable towards them. 

At least you guys are revealing your true motives

If you're talking about the very nature of God there isn't much physics involved in it's origin, the Creator is pure awareness, there is no matter or material that produces that first Reality. Conscious awareness doesn't need form or matter to be conscious or aware, this isn't magic it's just the nature of awareness. There is nowhere something exists where there is not awareness, pure consciousness is the first foundation beyond everything that exists, and everything that exists comes out from that first Reality including energy. Pure awareness is cyclical or eternal, it has no beginning or end, no starting point or ending point, it's a static fixed Reality. It's the beginning and passing of matter and form that have a birth and a death but awareness exists within and outside of that simultaneously much like the nature of electricity and energy, they exist within form and independent of form. 

If you're talking about creation from the Godhead down it's basically consciousness=energy=creation. While awareness needs nothing to produce it or sustain it conscious activity does produce energy, and like both energy and consciousness they are not created or destroyed, actually they co-exist and are eternal. Energy exists because first an omnipresent conscious reality exists, it is this nature of energy that the Creator uses/manipulates to begin the processes of creating.....big bang, stars, planets, galaxies, solar systems to the establishment of environments for life forms to begin to evolve...ect ect….and you have what we see currently in this particular solar system of ours and much more beyond.

This is why it's important to pay attention to how energy operates in creation, it's a huge clue to why and how creation and Theism are possible. Energy acts as intelligence or produces intelligence because intelligence is first involved in that process. When energy was isolated and condensed to produce a Big bang it enabled the Creator even more medium to create with! but the conscious reality of God starts with energy...and then the physics, chemistry and biology behind all of our worlds.

I know there are atheists here who aren't here to mock