Your term of “NOT SURE” in questioning whether Jesus was born in original sin or not, as the serial killer Yahweh God incarnate, CAN NEVER WORK! How dare you say you “DON’T KNOW!”
When Jesus becomes God AND man, He has to be pure without any sin whatsoever, whether original sin, or any type of sin, because there had to be a pure and clean sacrifice on the cross to save mankind because it was God’s will, which in turn is Jesus’ will since he is God (Hebrews 10:7-10). DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS SIMPLE GODLY PREMISE. OR NOT?
you explicitly state “As God he cannot sin - as man he must have been able to.” WHAT?!!! You have the audacity to now state that Jesus as a man sinned???!
WHAT HAS BEEN SHOWN BY YOU THUS FAR IN QUESTIONING JESUS AS GOD HAVING THE POSSIBILITY OF ORIGINAL SIN, AND BEING IN SIN AS A MAN, GOES DIRECTLY AGAINST JESUS’ WORD AS SHOWN!
TRADESECRET, the runaway FAKE Christian,Pssst, Jesus and I noticed that you are still too embarrassed to address the link below. Since my post #92 above is showing you to be a minion of Satan, maybe the both of you would be able to address the following post, okay?As if DebateArt didn't see you continually running away from said post above! LOL!
"you admit that Jesus, as the aforementioned serial killer Yahweh God incarnate, was born into original sin! Therefore, original sin imposes that Jesus has sin upon Him, disregarding your comical ruse of the differrence of original sin verse regular sin, SIN IS SIN! You can weasel your words until Hell freezes over, BUT THE FACT REMAINS THAT JESUS THEREFORE HAS SIN UPON HIS BEING WITH ORIGINAL SIN, PERIOD!!!"
JESUS IS GOD INCARNATE, EXHIBIT #1: Remember, the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit are not names for different parts of our Christian God, but one name for God because three persons exist in God AS ONE ENTITY. They cannot be separate from one another. Each person is understood as having the identical essence or nature, not merely similar natures, understood? Therefore, Jesus as a man, is the serial killer Yahweh God incarnate!
JESUS STATED: “I and the Father are one.’ (John 10:30-33) See Exhibit #1“For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form.”(Colossians 2:9) This is speaking specifically about JESUS. Can it get any clearer that Jesus is God, any further questions, see EXHIBITI #1PAUL STATED: “But in case I am delayed, I write so that you will know how one ought to conduct himself in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and support of the truth. By common confession, great is the mystery of godliness: He who was revealed in the flesh, Was vindicated in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Proclaimed among the nations, Believed on in the world, Taken up in glory.” (1 Timothy 3:15-16) Without controversy, who was manifested in the flesh as our Christian God? You got it, Jesus! See EXHIBIT #1
Jesus is God that walked the earth, See EXHIBIT #1,
Just where do you stand upon this topic? you continually CONTRADICT yourself ad infinitum,
You have yet to explain why you don’t think Jesus' original sin, as Yahweh God incarnate, is actual sin.
[I] notice that you were silent to me saying that you have undoubtedly committed the Unpardonable Sin. You have blatantly gone against Jesus where one question Jesus' birth through Mary in whether it was true or not. BLASPHEME!You have blasphemed the Holy Spirit of Jesus' Triune Doctrine ... therefore your existence upon earth is just a waiting game for your demise,
Your simple-minded quote above shows without any doubt that you are too embarrassed about your church and how they represent Jesus the Christ, and where your Satanic church is obviously as ignorant of the bible as you are. The adage of “like attracts like” rings true with you and your Satanic church, because your blatant misconceptions relative to the bible are obviously taught by your churches Devil Speak!
Additionally, you remove one foot to insert the other AGAIN with your admittance that if you did tell us your church affiliation, then you would provide cannon fodder and material for any astute TRUE Christian like myself, or an Atheist, to bury you in further embarrassment, therefore admitting that your church is open to embarrassment! THANK YOU VERY MUCH TRADESECRET FOR ADMITTING THIS TACIT INFORMATION! PRICELESS! LOL!!!!
Barring your ... position on whether Jesus was born into original sin or not, you strike out with your quote herewith: “If he was the true child of Mary….”
You have the audacity to say “IF” Jesus was the true child of Mary?!
Notwithstanding, you capitalize Mary’s name, but slap Jesus in the face AGAIN by not capitalizing His pronoun “he” in your statement.
When Jesus is just a man, as you wrongfully state, whereas the Bible shows Jesus was a human man AND GOD, is the reason that you remain so confused and dumbfounded.
You are WRONG once again when you use your tired out ruse of “God cannot die, Otherwise the universe would have died with Jesus (God)." Firstly, Yahweh/Jesus DID NOT DIE AS A TRUE SACRIFICE because He arose on the 3rd day, AND, the universe was already set in motion by Jesus in following the laws of physics whether Yahweh/Jesus was gone for 3 days or not! In a TRUE SACRIFICE, the person REMAINS DEAD, like in WWII, understood?! Here, let me use your own words against you, obviously you don't think things through and just believe things in blind faith!
The God of the Bible is Yahweh/Jesus as God incarnate of the Trinity Doctrine definition, therefore Jesus is the serial killer God as shown in the Old and New Testaments!
“I have clearly indicated that I believe Jesus is without sin”“I think it was possible that Jesus as Man could have sinned”“Not contradictions. one describes the actuality. the other a possibility.”“Just because Jesus possibly could have sinned does not mean that he did.”“In fact we know he did not - which means he, unlike Adam, overcame the temptation of sin. If it was not possible for Jesus to sin, then his overcoming of sin would give Christians no comfort that they too are able to overcome sin. It is pretty basic Christianity 101.”“I don't believe that original sin means he was with sin.”“But was he born with original sin? Probably. I am not sure.”“ Yet it seems he must have been if he was the true child of Mary who herself had inherited original sin.”“Jesus as man inherited original sin.” “Jesus as God did not inherit original sin”. “Original sin is not the same as sins.”“Your problem, I think, is that you are unable to properly provide an adequate understanding of the Humanity of Christ. Until you can explore this - these things will remain troublesome for you.”“It is encouraging that you have a developed view of Christ's deity. Yet, your theology will remain skewed until you explore Christ's humanity, a doctrine which is absolutely vital for the Christian church and proper understanding of the atonement.”
With your nonchristian like comical wavering upon Jesus being born into sin or not goes against Jesus’ inspired word once again, to wit: “The unfolding of your words gives light; it imparts understanding to the simple.” (Psalm 119:130).
"forgiven including anything said against Jesus, (which is what you accused me of)"
“I tell you the truth, all the sins and blasphemies of men will be forgiven them. But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an eternal sin.” (Matthew 12:31-32)
1. You sacrilegiously slap Jesus in the face by taking the sacred thing of Jesus birth and questioning it with your Satanic quote of: “IF” Jesus was born through Mary…” therefore you are calling the birth narrative of Jesus in Matthew 1:18-25 AS A LIE!
2. In an absolute sense, you really don’t know if Jesus was born with original sin or not! You embarrassingly keep wavering back and forth upon this topic as shown in your post #97 and others. In the name of Jesus, quit showing irreverence to Jesus and make up your mind in an absolute sense for Christ’s sake!
3. You blatantly deny our Jesus as a man AND as Yahweh God incarnate in your Satanic post #5 and others as well. Therefore, you have disrespected Jesus as God of the bible and being a serial killer, because of your Satanic churches doctrine that you have erroneously swallowed to the contrary!
4. You blatantly HIDE from telling the membership in which church has fed you your wrongful Satanic doctak viwhere it thinks Jesus is just a man, whereas, the bible teaches that Jesus was man AND Yahweh God incarnate in many verses and narratives that you are obviously unaware of, which in turn you show irreverence towards Jesus the Christ AS GOD! No wonder you don’t want to expose your Satanic church!
BROTHER D QUOTE TO YOU: Your simple-minded quote above shows without any doubt that you are too embarrassed about your church and how they represent Jesus the Christ, and where your Satanic church is obviously as ignorant of the bible as you are. The adage of “like attracts like” rings true with you and your Satanic church, because your blatant misconceptions relative to the bible are obviously taught by your churches Devil Speak!
BROTHER D. QUOTE TO YOU: Additionally, you remove one foot to insert the other AGAIN with your admittance that if you did tell us your church affiliation, then you would provide cannon fodder and material for any astute TRUE Christian like myself, or an Atheist, to bury you in further embarrassment, therefore admitting that your church is open to embarrassment! THANK YOU VERY MUCH TRADESECRET FOR ADMITTING THIS TACIT INFORMATION! PRICELESS! LOL!!!!
“Seriously! Is that the best you can come up with? I was positing an argument? Not making a statement of proposition. I have no doubt about Jesus' parentage.”
“God does not judge Christians against a 20th century grammar textbook.”
The Greek was written entirely in Capital Letters - why are you disrespecting God by not writing everything in Capital letters? Oh it must be because you disrespect God. Don't get distracted by pathetic and stupid arguments - lets talk real stuff - substance. “
