Here's part of an interview Clint Eastwood had with the Esquire in 2016. The first section is just offhand remarks about his career. Its somewhat relevant just because of the way he talks. 2nd paragraph he starts getting into his highly sophisticated political analysis. The third he delves into a political blunder when he talked to an empty chair, and offers a first hand perspective.
ESQ: Scott, do you think you've picked up any of Clint's instincts?
SE: I've tried to take every opportunity I can to learn from him. I flew to Georgia to see him work on Sully. Every chance I get, I'm trying to be on set with him.
CE: He's doing great. He's on the right track.
SE: I think he's got a knack for picking good material.
CE: You know it when you see it. But by the same token, you have to keep an open mind. It's so easy to get to a certain spot and say, "This is very comfortable." My agent begged me not to do Every Which Way but Loose.
SE: [Laughs.] That always cracks me up.
CE: And my lawyer begged me not to do it: "This is a piece of shit. It's not the kind of thing you do." And I said, "It's not the kind of thing that I've been doing—all these pictures where I'm shooting people. I want something you can take your kids to." I said, "I like this character. I think it's hip that the girl dumps the guy and it's not happy ever after." And the public loved it. If you make a couple decisions where your instincts worked well, why would you abandon them?
SE: He always told me that. "Nobody knows anything, so don't listen to anyone else."
CE: Nobody knows diddly. They just think they do. And the people that think they know the most know the least.
ESQ: Your characters have become touchstones in the culture, whether it's Reagan invoking "Make my day" or now Trump … I swear he's even practiced your scowl.
CE: Maybe. But he's onto something, because secretly everybody's getting tired of political correctness, kissing up. That's the kiss-ass generation we're in right now. We're really in a pussy generation. Everybody's walking on eggshells. We see people accusing people of being racist and all kinds of stuff. When I grew up, those things weren't called racist. And then when I did Gran Torino, even my associate said, "This is a really good script, but it's politically incorrect." And I said, "Good. Let me read it tonight." The next morning, I came in and I threw it on his desk and I said, "We're starting this immediately."
ESQ: What is the "pussy generation"?
CE: All these people that say, "Oh, you can't do that, and you can't do this, and you can't say that." I guess it's just the times.
ESQ: What do you think Trump is onto?
CE: What Trump is onto is he's just saying what's on his mind. And sometimes it's not so good. And sometimes it's … I mean, I can understand where he's coming from, but I don't always agree with it.
ESQ: So you're not endorsing him?
CE: I haven't endorsed anybody. I haven't talked to Trump. I haven't talked to anybody. You know, he's a racist now because he's talked about this judge. And yeah, it's a dumb thing to say. I mean, to predicate your opinion on the fact that the guy was born to Mexican parents or something. He's said a lot of dumb things. So have all of them. Both sides. But everybody—the press and everybody's going, "Oh, well, that's racist," and they're making a big hoodoo out of it. Just fucking get over it. It's a sad time in history.
ESQ: What troubles you the most?
CE: We're not really … what troubles me is … I guess when I did that silly thing at the Republican convention, talking to the chair …
ESQ: I didn't say it was silly.
CE: It was silly at the time, but I was standing backstage and I'm hearing everybody say the same thing: "Oh, this guy's a great guy." Great, he's a great guy. I've got to say something more. And so I'm listening to an old Neil Diamond thing and he's going, "And no one heard at all / Not even the chair." And I'm thinking, That's Obama. He doesn't go to work. He doesn't go down to Congress and make a deal. What the hell's he doing sitting in the White House? If I were in that job, I'd get down there and make a deal. Sure, Congress are lazy bastards, but so what? You're the top guy. You're the president of the company. It's your responsibility to make sure everybody does well. It's the same with every company in this country, whether it's a two-man company or a two-hundred-man company… . And that's the pussy generation—nobody wants to work.
ESQ: You've campaigned for office. If you were going to write a stump speech for this election, what would you say?
CE: "Knock it off. Knock everything off." All these people out there rattling around the streets and stuff, shit. They're boring everybody. Chesty Puller, a great Marine general, once said, "You can run me, and you can starve me, and you can beat me, and you can kill me, but don't bore me." And that's exactly what's happening now: Everybody is boring everybody. It's boring to listen to all this shit. It's boring to listen to these candidates.