Proving all (other) religions wrong.

The Ultimate Reality is God.

That being the case, atheists can only deny straw man gods and false idols. They have no argument that stands against The One True God.

So again, you repeat the same thing over and over, as if you consider this some sort of intellectual discussion. But, what you're doing is trolling, and you are protected to troll these forums.

At this point, the people who actually engage you with arguments to your claims are the ones who should really be thinking about why they're here and why they continue to engage the troll.

If we cannot tell that it is evidence then it is not evidence for us. Evidence that is unrecognizable/unknowable/unobservable is indistinguishable from no evidence.

That is the easiest thing in the world to know, gods are the creation of humans and have no means of communicating with humans.

No one is communicating with the non existent.

So you know for a fact that there is no creator?

wWe can assume two things about God, he is either really smart or really dumb. If we assume he's really smart, then he either makes himself completely indistinguishable from the nonexistent such that humans would never know about him or he would reveal himself to us all. If we assume he's really dumb, then he would be selective with whom he communicated. The former would lead to every human on the planet understanding that God exists, while the latter would lead us to where we are today, multiple religions with humans fighting and killing each other over which religion is right.

Or, can we assume humans are smart or dumb? If smart, they wouldn't invent gods in the first place to subject others to their will or if really dumb, they would. And, here we are today.

God is not selective on who he communicates with, in that everyone has that opportunity. Communication with God is open to everyone. What you do with that opportunity is up to you.

Really? Are you now going to proclaim God communicates with you?

Yes, but it's nothing to boast about. If the Bible is true, which needless to say I believe to be the case, God has spoken to you as well since you've probably read the Bible, and in addition have observed nature.

I think the idea of non-communication with the creator is a comfort zone position, because as long as you can do that, you can actually believe you're part of some elite intellectual group that can snub their nose at the majority of humanity. If God revealed himself to you, it may very well be too painful.

I think the idea of non-communication with the creator is a comfort zone position, because as long as you can do that, you can actually believe you're part of some elite intellectual group that can snub their nose at the majority of humanity. If God revealed himself to you, it may very well be too painful.

Interesting. So if anyone tries communicating with god, he'll communicate back in a way that makes it very clear, at least to that person, that he's real and there and all that? So every prayer said in sincerity is answered? Or only Christian prayers? Or only CERTAIN Christian prayers? How can we tell?

Are you asking because you want to know how to pray to God?

If you pray to God, and he answers, he (or for your sake, it) will probably either be a specific God of a religion, or a more generic god with no affiliated religion. Maybe it's a step you need to take. If a god reveals itself to you, don't blame me if it turns out to be Jesus. I have nothing to do with the identity of the creator. If it turns out to be Thor, so be it.

If a god reveals itself to you, don't blame me if it turns out to be Jesus. I have nothing to do with the identity of the creator. If it turns out to be Thor, so be it.

The Truth doesn't change or go away simply because you find it inconvenient.

God is not selective on who he communicates with

That is simply not true and you know it. Try to be honest.

Communication with God is open to everyone. What you do with that opportunity is up to you

If we're all smart, then we all have nothing to worry about. If we're all dumb, then that would include you since you're human (right?)

What about my explanation about God, is he smart or dumb? Would he have the brains and understanding that if he was selective, the result would be multiple religions with people killing each other, which is where we are today or would be communicate with every single human being? This has nothing to do with what I want or what you want and everything to do with what God would want.

God has spoken to you as well since you've probably read the Bible, and in addition have observed nature.

you're part of some elite intellectual group that can snub their nose at the majority of humanity

I think the idea of non-communication with the creator is a comfort zone position

.Clearly, because there are so many vastly different versions of the character, he is either unwilling or unable to do so definitively, or he's simply incompetent at the task. Otherwise why would so many people NOT believe in him?

What exactly are there so many versions of? Yahweh? Or creator gods in general?

No, I am always willing to examine new evidence. But it has to be EVIDENCE. Not someone's story or dream. It has to be something I can demonstrate, or they can demonstrate. I'm not sure still how nature is involved. THere's tons of natural explanations for basically every phenomena we observe. 

This place did a 30 page topic on going from A god to a specific God. Not a single believer even tried, in earnest, over the course of the 30 pages. My point is even if I said "Okay, there's a creator behind this," there is still no way to connect that thing to any specific version of a myth. 

If we cannot tell that it is evidence then it is not evidence for us. Evidence that is unrecognizable/unknowable/unobservable is indistinguishable from no evidence.

My point is that it's still evidence. Even if an ant isn't capable of considering it.

How is it then do you think that some people do consider nature evidence?

I think the idea of directly communicating with something that created the universe, and all the events of your life and all life being part of some grand plan, and that by believing this you get to live forever in a giant chromed out mansion in paradise with that creator as your neighbor, is a comfort zone position, because as long as you believe all that, you get to be part of a giant club of similarly believing folks, feel that you're superior to all other people who don't believe as you do (as the majority does not believe what you believe, you also get the 'we're the underdogs!' stuff that feels good), and you get to think you don't ever have to die like all life before you has. If you realized how fragile your evidence for this communication is, and discovered that you've been lied to, and lying to yourself, too, and to others, it may very well be too painful. 

And we didn't even get into how you know the god of the bible is the creator of the universe. 

It's certainly comforting to know that God exists, is taking care of us (including you). As far as a comfort zone? I guess it could be if I wanted to go through mental gymnastics to qualify that claim. But there is aspects of Christianity that are not comfortable. And might be why many don't, by choice, believe.

One of course is having to come to grips with being the equivalent of a criminal. All of humanity is in that very position. I personally don't have a problem with that, but I imagine many people do. Particularly the humanists and atheist activists. Also it's very clear that we are not part of an elite group. We are not at all special. For a believer to think he's special could be a very big problem since Christ's focus is so much on the lost (non-believers). There's a parable about workers coming to work late, and getting the same pay as those who worked for a long period of time. That means that the length of time I've been a believer is fairly meaningless. The prodigal son's complaining brother is another good example of this.

But yeah. If someone has pride in humanity to the point where they don't like the idea of our accomplishments being a result of divine intervention, that person will probably have a number of issues.

I notice you didn't answer my questions, any of them.

I'm asking because I want to know why you said if anyone wants to communicate with god, they can (not communicate TO god, communicate WITH god). Or, if you have instructions on how to pray to your specific god, I'd like to have them. I must have been doing something wrong all those years, according to you, so I should be able to find what it was in your instructions. 

This is something we've gone over at DDO. And ended there until now.

I can only speculate why God hasn't communicated with you. Since you believe that Yahweh is evil, then if Yahweh is God, why would he reveal himself to you? If you prayed hoping God would speak to you, and tell you that he's not the God of the Bible, and it happens to be that he is the God of the Bible, I guess he's not going to lie to you. Right?

In other words, as I've said before, you've placed restrictions on what God should be, or be like.

Am I wrong?

As far as how to pray, I don't think there's any particular ritual you'd have to follow. I think generally when people do seek God, to find out if he's real, would be to get alone somewhere, perhaps in kneeling position as a means to show humility. But I don't think that's really the issue/problem here.

That is simply not true and you know it. Try to be honest.

First off, I base this off of scripture. So why would you claim I was lying?

And since you don't believe in God anyway, why would you even make this claim? You can't be making the claim as someone who is familiar with God's character, so you must be implying this from scripture. if that's the case, where exactly in scripture are you getting this impression?

Is that a joke? Once again, you imply that you communicate with God. Yes or No?

Who else do you know that communicates directly with God? Why are those people not making international headlines?

You're clearly going down a rabbit hole here from which you'll never escape.

First off, I base this off of scripture.

Your scripture is written by ignorant, primitive, superstitious savages, I can safely ignore anything they've written.

Are you willing to examine the possibility that you're a sinner in desperate need of salvation?

In other words, as I've said before, you've placed restrictions on what God should be, or be like. 

Why aren't they making international headlines? There's a very common argument that militant atheists use that's actually contradictory. They complain that there's no evidence for God, would love to see it, yet say that if God is the God of the Bible, they won't worship him because he's evil.