Proving all (other) religions wrong.

First off, I base this off of scripture. So why would you claim I was lying?

Scripture was written by men. In Scriptures, it only talks about prayer as the one and only avenue to communicate with God, however there is no audible voice from God because God is supposed to answer us in our dreams, according to Scriptures. Of course, that's just a cock and bull story written by men. One would have to be incredibly ignorant and gullible to believe such a thing.

So, if you "communicate" with God, it is done through prayer, Of course, you could be praying to Allah or Thor for all you know. Any communication back to you would be done through dreams and of course, we hear folks doing all kinds of insane things because Jesus told them in their dreams.

All this shows is that the men who wrote this stuff probably had mental disorders.

God is supposed to answer us in our dreams, according to Scriptures. Of course, that's just a cock and bull story written by men. One would have to be incredibly ignorant and gullible to believe such a thing.

Who else do I know that communicates directly with God? Well, there's a guy named Tom, a woman named Jennifer, a guy named Tony.........

In other words, they are also folks who lie about communicating with God?

Why aren't they making international headlines?

Does this ring any kind of a bell?

And I'm not sure why you're telling me that I imply I communicate with God, and then ask me if I communicate with God.

What about my explanation about God, is he smart or dumb? Would he have the brains and understanding that if he was selective, the result would be multiple religions with people killing each other, which is where we are today or would be communicate with every single human being? This has nothing to do with what I want or what you want and everything to do with what God would want.

You're last sentence is remarkably accurate.

What you're really asking is why didn't God just create us within his spiritual realm to where there would be no need to seek him, pray to him, have faith in him even when we can't physically see him, or see evidence of his promises. For some reason, God's desire is for a relationship with man in our created plane where we are not in direct contact like the created beings in heaven, and humans who have passed away and now abide in his realm. In our realm we're separated from God due to our human condition that can only be resolved individually. I can't do it for you, and you can't do it for me. What causes us to battle one another (wars, racial divisions, etc.) is man's doing. It's man's issue, not God's. People are going to kill whether there's religion or not. And we have definitive proof of this from what we've seen even to this day with communist regimes that kill not just for religious reasons.

Nature, in no way, shape or form indicates any gods whatsoever. That is utterly absurd. Only the most ignorant people would use Nature as an example of God.

The Bible was written by men, not God. The Bible is a book that one reads. That would be like saying Bilbo Baggins is communicating with me directly when I read LOTR.

So once again, does God communicate with you?

The Bible was written by men, not God. The Bible is a book that one reads. That would be like saying Bilbo Baggins is communicating with me directly when I read LOTR.

So once again, does God communicate with you?

The fact that you can't provide any intellectual meat to a discussion has nothing to do with me or any imaginary group you think I belong. You're just a really dumb guy and really dumb people gravitate towards religions, because they're really dumb and they see others who aren't really dumb as some sort of elite group of intellectuals. But, they're just dumb.

You simply have to up your game to non-dumb. Can you do that rather than snubbing your nose at others and making lame excuses for your lack of honesty, integrity and intellect?

I don't think I was snubbing my nose at anyone. I was actually going to thank you for including me in your group, but I see there's a new addition to the script. It's not just dumb humans that abide on our planet, but there's the not really dumb species as well. Hmmmm, I wonder who falls into that category? Is it safe to assume that this new addition to the script favors you by any chance?

That's friggin hilarious. Those who truly wish to gain knowledge and understanding often pursue it and often get what they're after; knowledge and understanding. Those very same people would be more than excited to find they could communicate with a god, any god. They would pursue that goal in the interest of gaining more knowledge and understanding.

The problem, of course, is the fact there are those, like yourself, who proclaim they can communicate with God but offer no methodology whatsoever other than, "Read the Bible". Therefore, no one has any inkling on how to communicate with God.

Of course, the simple fact is there are really dumb people who proclaim to communicate with God, and we're supposed to take really dumb people seriously?

They wouldn't be excited about finding God if they consider him evil. Right? As I stated before, a big part of the militant atheist manifesto is that the God of the Bible is evil. And if he did exist, he would be someone to abhor.

Or am I wrong?

militant atheist manifesto

It's funny how theists just make up stuff whenever it suits them.

the God of the Bible is evil. And if he did exist, he would be someone to abhor.

Or am I wrong?

What you're wrong about is the fact you believe your God is the only god, yet there are hundreds of gods throughout history purported to exist with followers just as zealous as you. And since this is the case, the god we do happen communicate with may be nothing like your God or their gods. We can probably assume any sort of alleged supreme being would have brains in their heads and wouldn't behave anything like your vicious God or the hundreds throughout history.

What you're really asking is why didn't God just create us within his spiritual realm to where there would be no need to seek him, pray to him, have faith in him even when we can't physically see him, or see evidence of his promises.

For some reason, God's desire is for a relationship with man

In our realm we're separated from God due to our human condition that can only be resolved individually.

What causes us to battle one another (wars, racial divisions, etc.) is man's doing

People are going to kill whether there's religion or not.

And we have definitive proof of this from what we've seen even to this day with communist regimes that kill not just for religious reasons.

I would say it would be very dishonest to say that nature is not compelling enough to simply at least consider a creator behind it's design

Why would anyone consider a creator with a design when no such thing shows itself anywhere in nature? There are many valid explanations for nature, none of them have anything to do with religions, creators or other such magic. It would be dishonest to ignore and dismiss those explanations in favor of believing in a creator with a design.

But, isn't it kind of silly to completely eliminate the idea?

Richard Dawkins said nature gives the appearance of design

No doubt you're familiar with the saying "If it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, etc.......".

Forget about saying "then it must, or most likely is intelligent design". How about just simply ".....then maybe it's possible that it is intelligently designed?" But I know that you're not able to do that. That would violate your position you hold to.

Again, you mean? Sure! Just demonstrate that a being exists that cares if I jerked off in the shower when I was 13, or that will burn my friend in a lake of fire for being gay. Once you demonstrate this being, then you can demonstrate its rules and how I'm breaking them. I'll be glad to participate. Are you ever going to address anything I say?

The TL:DR version of your response, then, is "no, I can't." 

This by the way would be one of those example posts not worth responding to.

Your scripture is written by ignorant, primitive, superstitious savages, I can safely ignore anything they've written.

I suppose you can certainly safely ignore anything they've written. So long as you're not ignoring it while lying on a railroad track.

Actually, isn't it YOU that is placing restrictions on what God should be? Or have you prayed to many, many gods and found that only one answers? Because again, more people do not believe in your version of god than do, which means either you're wrong or they are. 

Again I'll ask, when you're talking about versions of my God, what exactly are you talking about? Give me some examples of these versions.

They aren't making international headlines because they can't prove it. And the argument "there's no evidence for any gods, and IF THERE WERE, and that evidence pointed to the god of the bible, I wouldn't worship him because he'd be morally repugnant and not worthy of worship" isn't an argument nor is it contradictory. It is an admittedly inelegant statement pointing out (a) there's no evidence for any gods, and (b) positions a hypothetical that doesn't in any way contradict the first part. An argument would leave off the first part and just use the second part along the lines of "If the god of the bible were anything more than just a character in the book, it wouldn't be worthy of worship, because the book demonstrate a morally repugnant asshole not worth worshiping, here and here and here and here and here." 

It's funny how theists just make up stuff whenever it suits them.

What you're wrong about is the fact you believe your God is the only god, yet there are hundreds of gods throughout history purported to exist with followers just as zealous as you. And since this is the case, the god we do happen communicate with may be nothing like your God or their gods. We can probably assume any sort of alleged supreme being would have brains in their heads and wouldn't behave anything like your vicious God or the hundreds throughout history.

A god with brains in his head wouldn't need you to pray or have faith, it would simply reveal itself to everyone and that would be that. False promises from false gods are useless. We need to hear from the horses mouth, not some ignorant sheep herder.

God doesn't need you to pray. Remember the apostle Paul?

But if the creator lays down the requirement for you to pray, it's entirely up to you whether or not you respond.

You're talking about your God, of course, but a god with a brain in his head would simply reveal himself to men if he wanted a relationship.

Do you hide yourself away when you want to have a relationship with someone? Seriously? How dumb is that.

That makes absolutely no sense at all. Now you say an all powerful God can't have a relationship with us because of some condition? What, herpes? Are you actually reading what you write?

That's because religions are mans doing. A god with a brain in his head would never allow us to war over him. Yet, that's what we've observed for centuries.

Again, well it doesn't really matter then which god created us since he obviously allows for wars. Right?

If we eliminate religion, we'll have eliminated at least one reason to kill and there will be less killing, we can work on the other reasons as well.

Communist countries are filled with religious people what privately practice their faith, it is simply not allowed in public. Too bad all theists don't practice their religions in private.

LOL (sort of).

Not quite. Christians in China have been imprisoned because they worshiped, held bible studies, held house church services in their private homes and villages.

When you say (I assume American) theists should practice our own religion in private, what exactly would that entail?

How exactly is that not (I assume) happening?

Why would anyone consider a creator with a design when no such thing shows itself anywhere in nature? There are many valid explanations for nature, none of them have anything to do with religions, creators or other such magic. It would be dishonest to ignore and dismiss those explanations in favor of believing in a creator with a design.

You don't have to dismiss anything. Where are you picking that up from?

And why would a creator have to be attached to a religion? What about either a deistic creator, or a more generic theistic creator?

I own a copy of Dawkins lecture where he talked in depth on that subject, he went about showing just how ridiculous the concept of a creator and that nature evolves from simple beginnings.

Yes, have you seen a duck? I have ducks in my pond, I see them all the time. However, a person who has never seen a duck would not know a duck if it walked, quacked and waddled right past them.

But the evil Bible God theme is prevalent throughout the internet by atheists in general

I have absolutely no say on who God is

But wouldn't any God be absolutely evil? Even a creator not attached to any religious text still allows catastrophes, violence, and natural disasters. In fact, wouldn't just the fact that there's death at all render any creator evil?

But if the creator lays down the requirement for you to pray...

But you only provided part of my quote. And that's a problem. Of course I do. To make sure nothing is misspelled.

worshiped, held bible studies, held house church services in their private homes and villages.

When you say (I assume American) theists should practice our own religion in private, what exactly would that entail?

Really?

Time? Date? Year?

I'm not sure what your argument is, but the statement we can assume is being made to someone who knows what a duck is, and can see and hear one.

Why would you assume any sort of method in creating the universe?

Again, well it doesn't really matter then which god created us since he obviously allows for wars. Right?

How about we eliminate soccer? People get killed at soccer games for rooting for the wrong team.

How about we get rid of colors of the spectrum? At least as far as clothing. If we all for instance wore white, gang members couldn't kill anyone for wearing the wrong colors.

But some people do determine nature as evidence. I'm wondering why you think that might be?

The tendency of humans to anthropomorphize and assume agency.

They wouldn't be excited about finding God if they consider him evil. Right? As I stated before, a big part of the militant atheist manifesto is that the God of the Bible is evil. And if he did exist, he would be someone to abhor.