Serial Killer Mafia DP1

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iLikePie5 (1) -1/6- Casey_Risk
iLikePie5 (2) -2/6- That2User, Wylted

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Alright, thanks for the mod confirmation. 

Unvote 
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My guy has a pretty high score
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@Bullish
High scores usually means that the police are pinning extra kills on the SK to close cases. It's rare to see more than 25 kills without it just being cops letting actual killers go free to pin stuff on SKs and clear cases
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@Bullish
If you don't mind sharing did your guy do any rapes and if so how?

Dead alive? Gay straight?
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Apologies, I fell off from this while I was at work. I'll catch up now before I have to head  to a show this evening.
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@Vader
In a meeting right now but I am going to claim this (I feel like GP always claiming early nowadays but I keep giving SOP roles). I am Popular Townie. My role lasts til MYLO/LYLO. I am Ted Bundy. I can give justification when I am out of this meeting
Yeah, I buy this. It does fit Ted Bundy, but more importantly, I just can't see Vader claiming this as scum after last game. Maybe that's naive of me, but it didn't exactly work out well for WyIted, and Vader was on that scum team.

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@ILikePie5
Yes there is a reason why my name shows up twice. Yes I have two votes right now. My character and justification lines up very well as well. And I’m pretty sure this makes me town unless you think both my positions are scum, which is possible but doesn’t make much sense
I don't see why Luna would make you two separate scum simultaneously, since it would mean one flip implicates the other. I could see a world in which one of you is a TP, like others have said, but not one in which both of them are scum or one of them is scum and you're somehow both in and out of scum chat.

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@ILikePie5
Giving it some more thought after reading your posts.

First off, I think it's interesting that this happened at all. Luna had two back-ups, so you're not simply filling an empty Town slot. He would have just given you a double voter role if he wanted you to have two votes. So that suggests that whatever role you have is specifically built with splitting you across two separate characters. They could share a role or they could be two separate roles that somehow interrelate. I haven't decided which yet. To be clear, I'm not fishing for an answer because I'm honestly more intrigued to see this play out right now than I am to just get an explanation from you.

As for how that could play out, I suppose it's not utterly impossible that you're scum. There could be a Lone Wolf in this game and one of you could be that role, while the other could be a TP. That being said, part of the reason I don't believe this is the same reason I don't believe you're a scum/town pair: I can't see you functioning at cross purposes for yourself to try and satisfy two entirely distinct wincons. It's the same problem with you being TP/town, though I guess the TP could be Survivor or something that just wins independently.

So most likely you're town/town. It's the easiest explanation anyway and one that doesn't invite a whole lot of other questions about why you'd have two separate characters that pursue distinct and potentially clashing ends. It's not impossible that that scenario would exist, particularly as this is new territory regardless, but that's my assumption right now.
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iLikePie5 (2) -2/6- That2User, Wylted

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Unvote

Very tempting to eliminate one just to see the flip though.
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iLikePie5 (2) -1/6- That2User

Game is slower than I expected
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"Game is slower than I expected" 

Real quote from Red Bundy about his first human game who was fat and slower than expected. After that he targeted fit chicks
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Activity ping
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I am not going to carry town this game like I did in Castlevania. You guys have to do something
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I've only read the first page. My guy is definitely a rapist, although my PM makes no mention of rape. Also my role justification is pretty shit. Are we doing mass character claims? I think we should.

Also we should test vader's claim. Part of the reason I fake claimed popular 2 games ago was because that claim was untestable. 

I've been reading up on some serial killers, and man, the police are retarded.
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Usually too much TP hunting is a sum tell, but this setup does lend itself to having TPs.
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@WyIted
High scores usually means that the police are pinning extra kills on the SK to close cases. It's rare to see more than 25 kills without it just being cops letting actual killers go free to pin stuff on SKs and clear cases
Not in my case, reading the wiki article is pretty open and shut this guy did those murders.
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@WyIted
Lets start off a mass character claim. 

Vader already claimed. We have a good number of softclaims. 

How about we pressure Savant and Austin for claims, in that order. 

VTL Savant
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@Bullish
sounds good 

VTL Savant

I was thinking about this before as well, if scum don't know the theme split than outing characters early could hurt them. Lunatic said the theme split was simple so it shouldn't be too esoteric to figure out
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1. Whiteflame- movie (dahmer maybe if so it's a new category of sex crime, consensual gay sex prior to murder)
2. Casey_risk
3. Austin
4. Bullish- rapist doesn't say if it was before or after death (is lunatic obsessed with rape why is every SK he chooses some sort of sicko?)
5. iLikePie5 (1) (rapes involved)
6. ILikePie5 (2) (somehow rapes so unique it would be a giveaway?)
7. Supadudz- ted Bundy rapes prior to death and kills when during anal at the precise moment prior to release some necrophilia involved
8. Savant
9. Wylted- rapes separate from murders (but some necrophilia involved maybe)
10. That2User - necrophile seduce in isolation
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@Bullish
Why are we mass character claiming? I feel like that's just going to hurt the town more than help it. 
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@WyIted
Lunatic said the theme split was simple so it shouldn't be too esoteric to figure out 
If the theme split is simple, then scum probably already know what it is. I took that to mean that it was probably fairly obvious. 
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Savant- 2/6- Bullish, Wylted
iLikePie5 (2) -1/6- That2User


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VTL Bullish

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@Casey_Risk
I don't know where to go from here. How would you like to move the game forward?
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Pressing Bullish feels like a good move
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I feel Casey is right in mass character claiming helping wolves, not massively wolf sided but it is slightly sai
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Outright saying the role pm justification is ???
could be a fakeclaim cover 
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*is shit is ???