trump is at best causing dysfunction right now. how can you MAGAts disagree?

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cut the workforce? sure, but dont just start slashing it. set a goal, and say you want ten or twenty percent reduction in cost within six months, on the aggressive side. even if you insisted on fifty percent reduction, do it in an orderly way and let the people who know how the agencies are run, call those shots. when bill clinton cut the workforce of the feds, that's the way he did it. elon and trump are just firing really good talent and acting arbitarirly. what do MAGAts say? 'well we need a reduction in costs and trump is sticking to his word'. that's obviously something a brainwashed person would rationalize, cause there's no good argument that this is being done in a smart way.  plus the fed work force is only a percent or so of our budget, so it's causing dysfunction with no real gain unless they can find a real way to cut the deficit

cutting medicaid and food stamps etc? trump has insisted that medicaid wont be touched. the only way the republians can cut the 1.5 trillion they want per year, is to cut medicaid, there's no question about that. it's basic math. when you point out to trump supporters that the only way to do this math is to cut these vital programs that affect red states the most, they deny it. if medicaid gets axed, will they change their tune? they'll prob think it is necessary pain. every other developed world knows it's basic humanity to prvoide healthcare to the poor and disabled, so the ones that want it axed aren't more enlightened that the rest of the developed world, they're just brainwashed hacks. 

does it help that the tax cut only benefits the wealthy and not the middle class? if they aren't too ignorant to know that, they dont care. does it matter that the tax cut is dollar for dollar dependant on cutting welfare programs and things for our society? they're usually too ignorant to know that, or they think pain is necessary, even though we spend less on taxes than the rest of the develeoped world already, and the bush and trump tax cuts spiraled the debt, where the economy would be growing much faster than the debt if they didn't do those tax cuts. this pain is totally self inflicted, in other words, but MAGAts dont know that, and wont care if you told them, as they are part of the cult. 

we've had the first measles death in over ten years, when we thought we had it eradicated twenty five years ago. trump put an anti vaxxer in the spot to run the health agencies, which in addition he has no background in healthcare or policy. which is a recurring them with trump appointeees, comepletley no relevant experience in the agency they're running other than loyalty to trump. magats think expertise doesn't matter and loyalty to their dear leader is good enough. kids are dying because of the ignorant decisions of adults, back on the measels point. what does the anti vax leader say about it? those things happen all the time, even though that's verifiably untrue. 
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I'm willing to bet we could send zero dollars to DC and the states would be just fine for a very long, long time.
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every other developed world knows it's basic humanity to prvoide healthcare to the poor and disabled
Humanity is a Jewish invention. Nature is the best instructor. Nature lets sick die so they are replaced by healthy. Disease/illness is just nature getting rid of the sick and making place for healthy.

 back on the measels point. what does the anti vax leader say about it?
Survival of the fittest demands that more people are born than are able to survive. All vaccines are unnecessary. Nature removes the sick to make place for healthy. You argue for opposite - to remove healthy to make place for the sick.
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I think Republicans eliminated abortions because having a lot more stupid people would expand their base.
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That sounds like your typical out of touch Democrat: only stupid women have abortions.
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Women who seek abortions are more than three time as likely to be poor; 49% are poor while the national poverty rate is about 12%;
  75% of women who seek abortions are low income;
  55% of women who seek abortions report a recent disruptive life event such as the death of a close friend or family member, job loss, the termination of a relationship with a partner, or overdue rent or mortgage obligations.

See, it's Trump's base.
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Black women? Nah, that's your base Buckwheat.

In the 2024 U.S. presidential election, exit polls indicate that approximately 90% of Black women voted for Democratic candidate Kamala Harris.

According to the CDC, Black women have the highest abortion rate among racial groups. In 2020, Black women accounted for 39.2% of all reported abortions, despite making up about 13-14% of the female population in the U.S.

So that makes you both a racist and stupid.
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One of my professors didn't say I was the stupidest student he ever had like one of Trump's professors said about him.
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I forgot to add. If the Republicans don't gut medicaid, the deficit won't get cut, and then the Maga base will blame RINOs for not cutting it. Totally predictable. Even tho the only way to do it is to gut medicaid, which largely would affect trumps base predominantly. In other words the magats don't realize they basically should be blaming the Republicans for not cutting the magat benefits. As is often said. Cause magats vote against their own self interest and don't know Jack about shit
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Total employee salaries are less than 2% of the Federal Budget, this performance with the chainsaws and the flamboyant showmanship is just a distraction, as you pointed out, it will make the government dysfunctional, but in terms of effectiveness, it will be no more than a drop in the bucket  in terms of cost cutting.

Why make all that noise then, why all the performances and chainsaws, why use it to dominate the news cycle every day, what are they distracting us from?

Well, let's look at the recently released 2025 budget, the US has around $35 trillion in debt, the current plan will increase US debt by $20 trillion, which is an economic death warrant for the US economy.  But what about all the cuts, we saw a chainsaw and everything, why are they dancing, aren't there other cuts?

Well yeah, one of them is $800 billion in cuts to Medicaid, effectively kneecapping the largest source of health care coverage in the United States, one that plays a critical role in rural communities (Overwhelmingly, the people that got Trump elected, you know, suckers). Medicare keeps rural hospitals open, in rural areas it provides for maternal health and deliveries, and access to primary care and critical health services that would not be available without it. 50% of children in rural areas rely on Medicaid for health care.  The budget will put rural communities and their health care systems at serious risk, it could put millions of lives at risk.

Working Americans will suffer, especially in rural areas, with all these cuts, with all this revenue from Americans paying Tariff taxes, with all this pain and suffering, why does the country get over $20 trillion in additional debt, where does all that money go? 

The simple and demonstrable answer is the billionaires get it, we pay for it through pain and suffering, and the billionaires get it all.

The budget calls for tax cuts for millionaires, billionaires, and multinational companies (you know, the companies owned by billionaires).  All of those cuts and another #20 trillion, it all goes to the wealthiest people, we suffer, and they get the money.  No fucking wonder Trump and the richest billionaire of all is doing the chainsaw dance to distract us.

Theses are the facts, all you need to do is get informed to see it, the country has been sold out by a charlatan, Trump and his oligarchy ruling class get $20 trillion dollars, and the country collapses (OK, so Putin benefits too).  Federal jobs, rural children, millions dead because they can't get health care, economic collapse, all of it is a small price to pay so millionaires and billionaires can get richer.

America is the world's only superpower, it is the most powerful country in the world, and it has been defeated by a charlatan armed with nothing but lies and conspiracy theories.  


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Remember the Eisenhower had a 90 percent tax on the rich when they had the same Debt/GDP ratio that we have today.
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One of your professors didn't know you called "stupid" black women who got abortions Republicans.
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America is the world's only superpower, it is the most powerful country in the world, and it has been defeated by a charlatan armed with nothing but lies and conspiracy theories. 
Thats what happens when argument of the force meets force of the argument.

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Actually, the head of the Nuclear Engineering Department in my college who was a member of the Manhattan Project told a friend of mine that I could be the best in my field. However all I wanted to do was make a lot of money and have a lot of sex.
OMG,I'M A TRUMPER !
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all I wanted to do was make a lot of money and have a lot of sex.
The purpose of life is breeding to enable evolution and survival of the fittest.
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rump put an anti vaxxer in the spot to run the health agencies, which in addition he has no background in healthcare or policy.
RFK supports vaccines. Actually read his books he has a nuanced position in these things. The media lies to you
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States can do a much better job than DC can regarding healthcare. Masshealth outperforms Medicaid in  just about every area from efficient distribution to rendering quality services.

Like I said, every state could send ZERO dollars to DC, and the states would be just fine for a very long time.
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I had a wild idea I pitched to AI. Use successful states to reform failing states by having the successful states claim stewardship for 10 years to reform them. AI seems to think it would have a much better chance at working than the reconstruction period during 1865-1877. Although very racist cities like Chicago might cause problems with resistance to change.
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I had a wild idea I pitched to AI. Use successful states to reform failing states by having the successful states claim stewardship for 10 years to reform them. AI seems to think it would have a much better chance at working than the reconstruction period during 1865-1877. Although very racist cities like Chicago might cause problems with resistance to change.
The problem is finding 10 successful states in America.
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Your 20% cut is as pulled-out-of-the-butt as Biden did the last four years: picking a target that may cancellationnot have any relation to what is doable, given the waste and fraud going on in government. We need to eliminate3 that waste and fraud, no mater what percentage it represents. Get it? You  know Clinton did much the same thing. What was your beef, then? 
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Does the number really matter? If it's just one state, and it has been successful inspite of Biden's so-called leadership, then that is worth study and doing likewise.
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Youre missing the points. The method trump is using is screwed up. Even if we cut the agencies by 75 percent, the agencies are better equipped to make that call than random slashing by musk. Hes eliminating a lot of crucial people. Also you are missing that it's irrelevant how much we cut, I mean yes we should cut some, if they don't find large ticket items to cut. Medicaid being cut for example would be a necessary and big start but trump won't even acknowledge it. I guess we can pretend we're not cutting it while cutting it all along? That might work with the low information welfare queen red states. Compared to the test of the developed world we spend way less on taxes and there's all kinds of tax increases and loopholes we can atrack, in addition to measured spending decreases. 

I might just add you to the pile of commenter's I don't l respond to, cause you struggle too much to make relevant arguments and respond to the critical ideas. 
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How would you measure successful states and unsuccessful states? Blue states make more money and are more educated and live longer than red states. If that's not what counts, how are you measuring it?
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Youre missing the points. 
Your "points" are nothing but personal opinion repeated from personal opinion from TV whacko "news" elites who never justify any of their "points" by reference to anything of scholastic credibility. You don't, either. Justify something, or go to another subject, because you clearly have not sufficiently researched this one with any credibility. Show me, or go home, and take your flat ball with you. I will not play.
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Do you feel a special spot in your gut when you make random declarations like we need to take a chain saw to federal staff? Is that how you think through policy? Look up the term truthiness... it applies to your level of thinking. 

. If you want to question me on a specific fact ive provided, I will happily fact check you and show you you're wrong. I've supplied lots of facts and figures. You provide none. I'm not going to write a dissertation debate to educate you, facts don't matter to you anyway. And It's not my job to educate you.
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We can define a failing state as one that loses bond credit rating due to economic malfeasance and incompetence.

As of August 2023, states like Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Maryland, and Minnesota hold better Fitch Ratings than the federal government's AA+ bond rating.
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Clinton did much the same thing. What was your beef, then? 
What Clinton did isn't remotely comparable to what this administration is doing.

Clinton worked with Congress to decide where to cut, then worked with the agencies to make it happen.

This administration is just firing people and asking questions later. It's happened at least 6 or 7 times now that they fired a whole group of employees, only to figure out afterward that they actually need these people and scrambled to hire them back. That shows very clearly, that they literally do not know what the people they are firing even do. That's not defendable, that's not excusable. That's just blatant incompetence. It's the epitome of somone not knowing what they are doing.

given the waste and fraud going on in government. We need to eliminate3 that waste and fraud, no mater what percentage it represents.
They have yet to show a single shred of evidence that anything they've cut is because of fraud, and the cuts they've been publicly boasting about are either objective lies, wild exaggerations, or gross mischaracterizations. They have repeatedly posted the $ amount of cuts on their website only to have to downgrade it after realizing they added too many zeros. Again, that's blatant incompetence. Either that or they're just lying about that too figuring the correction will get far less attention than the initial lie which is almost always the case.

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RFK supports vaccines. Actually read his books he has a nuanced position in these things.
Let me guess... he's not against vaccines, he just questions whether they're safe and effective.

Am I close?
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Let me guess... he's not against vaccines, he just questions whether they're safe and effective.

Am I close?
He thinks some are safe and effective and others need more research or aren't. 

He supports the current schedule of vaccines for children which is what the media keeps lying about with him. 

Just like the CDC he approves of some vaccines and thinks others are ineffective.
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trump is at best causing dysfunction right now. how can you MAGAts disagree?
He's Trump; he can r@pe children on Epstein's island and his base will claim it's fake news no matter what evidence you have on your side.

If they will assume Trump is innocent/right on child r@pe no matter the evidence to the contrary, then any other accusation they will either say, "Trump is right" or, "It's fake news"!