Diary Mafia End Game

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@ILikePie5
It's also no coincidence that the person who reveals their role their first post every single game was not allowed to know what their role did
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@Vader
If you survived we would have roleblocked and killed you anyway, but then Barney’s neighborizer would have gone off creating a new set of problems, town had tons of confirmation bs
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@WyIted
Could you provide an activity table for us? (I assume you already have one to track the game).
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@Lunatic
We were cooked, our last hope was to bank on town idiocy. Which fortunately came through.
I was already debating Austin the million ways in which we were basically game solved with basic logic. Wasn’t even trying to be negative, was legit trying to think of a play we could make and every one I came up with there was a town solve for it. The greyparrot vote was random and unexpected but yeah we should have lost that one with basic logic.
You did. I was literally telling Mharman that when we lynched you today, your roleblocker will go away, and we have to solve in Barney/Austin, and I was leaning Austin. Whiteflame was scum but we couldn’t lynch him
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@Lunatic
town had tons of confirmation bs
lesson learned. If I ever host again I am peppering in more vanillas
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I’m just glad I got to preach the gospel of treif. Didn’t have that on my Mafia bingo card.
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@Lunatic
Yeah exactly. I kind of figured I'd be dying Np2 but at least getting to live at NP2 would've implicated Barney's result to be way more true
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@WyIted
It's also no coincidence that the person who reveals their role their first post every single game was not allowed to know what their role did

Ya but you gave it to scum lol
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@WyIted
town had tons of confirmation bs
lesson learned. If I ever host again I am peppering in more vanillas
I’m not criticizing btw, my last game was a mess. Sometimes things don’t play out the way you expected them to when you set them up. It’s a common mistake I’ve made so I’d be a hypocrite to be mad at you for it lol.
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@Lunatic
I think i am hard to criticize here anyway since I admit I am not that good and just trying my best.
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you going to post your sign ups?
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interesting game

will have more thoughts on it later but I thought it was balanced-ish, just extremely swingy in terms of night actions
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@WyIted
If WF was 1x Deathproof, town couldn’t win the game ever. Why didn’t the game just end lol
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Just a heads up. Me not being a try hard next game doesn't make me scum. It just isn't going to happen from here on out
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@Lunatic
I’m not criticizing btw, my last game was a mess. Sometimes things don’t play out the way you expected them to when you set them up. It’s a common mistake I’ve made so I’d be a hypocrite to be mad at you for it lol.
I think it was winnable for either side tbh
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If WF was 1x Deathproof, town couldn’t win the game ever. Why didn’t the game just end lol
his 2nd lynch would have went through and it was 4-3
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You did. I was literally telling Mharman that when we lynched you today, your roleblocker will go away, and we have to solve in Barney/Austin, and I was leaning Austin. Whiteflame was scum but we couldn’t lynch him
Exactly if Barney died literally any point before me I’d be confirmed scum. Not to mention the fact that I’d have to sell the fact that for Barney to be lying they just don’t have any more role blocker shots which is a wierd train of wifom but one I was prepared to lead because I basically didn’t have any other choice. GP was confirmed town based on the crab god, so after I died Austin would be in the POE as the last scum, even if we killed you we would be cooked with basic logic. Austin did point out that greyparrots blind wifom for Barney could outweigh that logic but I didn’t have much hope in that. Boy did I underestimate stupidity.
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Can we all collectively agree to ban Greyparrot from Mafia?
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@iamanabanana
A couple minor tactical mistake, is that there's no way mafia would get a limitless vigilante. If he failed to perform, then he'd get lynched. 

I don't think you would have survived, but a push toward JoeBob (whom I'd identified as claiming a power way too similar to yours) would have been wise. And when lynched, since you knew you were town, killing JoeBob would have been optimal as your innocence all but guaranteed he was scum.

That said, I don't think the choice to kill Vader was intentionally throwing the game; just a tactical error.
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If GP was crab God and scum it is feasible he would claim his role was stolen early to free him up to use it on another scum mate. You could assume it saves somebody from a lynch but has no preference for who
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@WyIted
his 2nd lynch would have went through and it was 4-3
You said the DP would end if a Deathproof was lynched
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@ILikePie5
I think it was winnable for either side tbh
After the earth lynch, the two town mis vigges, we thought the game was a steam role win then bam out of nowhere town gets a revival and literally everyone left living has a confirmable fucking role. Idk man we played the first half to perfection just to get to a point where we for forced to bus and bank on another mistake. Kind of irritating it was lol
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@WyIted
If GP was crab God and scum it is feasible he would claim his role was stolen early to free him up to use it on another scum mate. You could assume it saves somebody from a lynch but has no preference for who
Nah after Luna flipped, I would’ve known GP was town. Cause he said the double brackets correctly.
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@Lunatic
After the earth lynch, the two town mis vigges, we thought the game was a steam role win then bam out of nowhere town gets a revival and literally everyone left living has a confirmable fucking role. Idk man we played the first half to perfection just to get to a point where we for forced to bus and bank on another mistake. Kind of irritating it was lol
Ya, plus without me knowing Casey’s role, I would’ve gotten lynched.
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@ILikePie5
you said the DP would end if a Deathproof was lynched
the 1x was already used on the lynch. if it was theoretically 2x to stay consistent I would have to end the DP, but it was 0x at this point so he wouldve died
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@ILikePie5
Can we all collectively agree to ban Greyparrot from Mafia?
I already told Wylted a day or two ago that if GP was not scum, I would not be partaking in any more games with him. As scum, being that stupid as a tactic is valid; as town, it's unforgivable.
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@WyIted
the 1x was already used on the lynch. if it was theoretically 2x to stay consistent I would have to end the DP, but it was 0x at this point so he wouldve died
That’s bastard lmao. GP didn’t know his role but scum did?
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@ILikePie5
let me post the other characters but nearly all of them should have double brackets and they weren't affiliation indicative. I reccomended to the scum team they claim their real characters because of that fact and the theme being so tough to work out anyway
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@iamanabanana
I’m not gonna be harsh on you for this.

You’re still new to this and noobs get destroyed for quite some time before they start getting good at a game like this.

You’re improving.

In theory your CC was a good idea. In reality, we had a bit of non-standard setup for this game. Nothing wrong with this, just that it presents an extra challenge for town. I kinda fell for the false dichotomy between you and Vader as well.

Normally, however, there is space for two kinds of the same role in a setup. For example, a doctor could be included with a bulletproof. Both block night kills, but in two different ways.

Same with your role and Vader’s, what tripped me up here is that two killings roles in the hands of town is quite powerful, and I felt that was a bit much. Where I went wrong is that killing roles can be somewhat neutral in utility, since they can hit both town and scum. And of course, a 14 player setup does mitigate some of the chaos of killing roles.

I don’t know if that was your thought process, but I assume you had a similar error in your reasoning. Good learning experience.
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@Barney
I already told Wylted a day or two ago that if GP was not scum, I would not be partaking in any more games with him. As scum, being that stupid as a tactic is valid; as town, it's unforgivable.
I said the same thing. I even refused to play with him before. I decided to give him one chance. Not again