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@Yassine
Hard cope man. There are more Americans in the Middle East than Muslims in the US. The ME real GDP is 2/3rd that of the US with almost equivalent industrial sector. This isn't the 50s anymore. You should brace for touchdown, cz your empire is collapsing.
I say get them the fuck out. The middle east is for middle easterners. Now if they do another 9-11 or anything like it after you pull out than just eliminate them with nukes. If they terrorize their own people fine but if they go to the Olympics or hijack a plan in another country just glass them. Christians are humans so you don't have these sorts of problems with them.
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@tigerlord
Atheist are dumbest, I have destroyed them long time ago.
I have lost my aggressive stance, otherwise I can obliterate them or anyone in argument. But I am behaving more like preacher now a days 
Inner peace.
Perhaps you have defeated yourself by your failure torepresent the values of tolerance and understanding which underpin Islamicteachings.

It’s my understanding that he Prophet and the Qur’anadvocates the appreciation of diversity, and the tolerance of other faiths andbelief systems. The Prophet’s words and actions nurtured unity andunderstanding between various cultures and religious communities.
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I say get them the fuck out. The middle east is for middle easterners. Now if they do another 9-11 or anything like it after you pull out than just eliminate them with nukes. If they terrorize their own people fine but if they go to the Olympics or hijack a plan in another country just glass them. Christians are humans so you don't have these sorts of problems with them.
- Shit is funny. LOL! There is still hope for your confusion. Muslims in the US are not your problem. Faith is. Unfortunately, we do not believe in genocide or mass killing. At the end of the day, the Worlds belong to God & He puts some against others as He wishes. We do as we are enjoined, fight those who fight & make peace with those who make peace. In our scripture, Jews are supposed to conquer a second time (which is now) & take over the Holy Land as mentioned in the Quran, & we are supposed to be fighting them at the end of time. So, this story might take quite a while to conclude.
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What is Jizwa? What is life like for Jews or Christians who live in mostlyMuslim countries? How great are Muslims treated by Christians and Jews when they flee their own countries for theirs?
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Would an all loving God will destruction through his creation? I would argue it’s our will to bear.  
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What is Jizwa?
- Poll tax on militarily able free adult males non-Muslim permanent residents who can afford it under Islamic rule, of the base amount of 2 dinars (~$750) & 4 dinars (~$1500) from the rich.

What is life like for Jews or Christians who live in mostly Muslim countries?
- Depends. If you mean by a Muslim country, a current Muslim majority nation state, then I suppose not much different from a Christian living in a Western state; with probably the added bonus they are afforded their own civil courts & own religious schools in some (like Egypt & Lebanon). This applies to every Muslim nation today without exception. All are nation states more or less secular, egalitarian & liberal, more or less peaceful or stable. Afghanistan might be an aberration here.

- If you mean by Muslim country as in a nation under Islamic rule –like say the Ottoman Empire or al-Andalus or the Abbasid Empire– then that is NOT a nation state. To highlight some differences between a West style nation secular liberal state & the Islamic state:
- That subjugates Church to State, this has no legislative authority –in the hands of ulama. (at the onset of the 20th century, there were 7 million Assyrians, now there are barely 1 million after 100 years of secular rule).
- That is majority based, this is community based. (over 60 pre-Islamic ethnic groups down from 120 a century ago still survive today in the Middle East – the Ottomans recognized over 30 millet under their rule)
- That grants religious freedom in belief but not in practice, this grants religious freedom in both belief & practice. (Christians in the ME shrunk from ~50% to 20% at the onset of the 20th century after 13 centuries of Islamic rule, & from 20% to 5% under a 100 years of your western style rule).
- That is egalitarian, this is legally pluralist to each community their own laws. (this does not extend to capital punishment, only the state has that jurisdiction)
- That promotes melting pot "diversity", this promotes segregation based diverse, i.e. each live among their own. (Hence, the majority population in the MENA region speak other languages than Arabic after 13 centuries of Arabic rule & domination, in the West almost all lose their ethnic language by the 3rd generation)
- That requires you to fight for the cause of the government despite your beliefs, this requires you to fight for your beliefs (Christians are not required to fight for a Muslim cause, as an American you die for the whims of the powerful). 


How great are Muslims treated by Christians and Jews when they flee their own countries for theirs?
- Dude, you need to get real. It's all a lie. But if you insist, here is the caricatural image:
• The US "prints" trillions of dollars per year expanding the currency pool & thus deflating the value of all other monies in the world (since it's the reserve currency), which is essentially trillions of of dollars of wealth transfer from all those who save their money across the globe into US treasury.
• USD being reserve currency causes other currencies to depreciate constantly & all other nations to absorb & suffer the inflationary effect keeping US inflation at minimum. This in turn affords the average American relatively cheaper goods from abroad & cheaper workforce, affording US multinational companies large margins of profits impossible for others to compete with.
• US having a trillion dollar of trade deficit a year literally means free stuff for Americans, $10k per household a year. The US "prints" money which was never earned that other countries are willing to take in exchange for real goods & services.
• The US undermines any polity in the world even attempting to seek alternatives to US interests, by funding oppositions or revolutions, by assassinations, by regime change, by sanctions, by blockages, & even by full blown invasions if nothing else works.
* The US uses the trillions it constantly steals from the rest of the world to give loans to countries which suffer from the resulting inflation, to be paid forward to US companies in the hope of building much needed infrastructure in these countries, which never come to fruition, forcing these countries to pay back the loans (which already made it into US companies banks) to international banks like the IMF with their citizens savings. 
• US & Western companies in general use their legacy to sell luxury products under brand names (made in USA) to people across the globe charging insane margins no other country does, further funneling wealth from the rest of the world to their banks.
• The USD being reserve currency affords the US such low inflation that the "central bank" can offer very low interest rate, which drives companies or even states across the globe to borrow from the US at the expense of their own nations.
Without talking about the thousand other ways Western nations suck the rest of the world & its resources...etc...etc.

- You might say it's the Jews. Although that is partially true, it is a fact that the Western Empire even before the Jews since the beginning of its incessant conquests (the Crusades, Reconquista, Invasion of America, then Africa, EastIndies, India, the Islamic World & China) was built on constant plunder & deception, accompanied by overwhelming violence. The Jews had a lot to do with the last two.

- All that might be beneficial now for the average American, but it isn't sustainable. It is beneficial for those who are at the positive end of the wealth transfer. & for those smart enough to realize this, it's a gold mine. However, the whole thing is a very big pyramid scheme. That is the bane of individualism. Immediate self-gratification at the expense of legacy & future. What happens when the US is unable to enforce its plunder? What happens when alternative to the USD appear (which isn't far in the future)? Countries will dump the USD, other currencies will appreciate against the dollar, the +15 trillion USD circulating abroad today becomes a ticking hyperinflation bomb, the average American will not be able to afford imports let alone free imports, brand legacy will cease to exist & there lies half US economy... 
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Would an all loving God will destruction through his creation? I would argue it’s our will to bear.  
- God does whatever He pleases. All things belong to God to begin with. God may bring death to whatever He brought life to, or destruction to whatever He brought creation to.
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Does God act malevolent?

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Does God act malevolent?
- God is not human & does not possess human emotions or qualities. God is the necessary absolute being.

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@Yassine
That's quite a but to digest. I like you and will do my best
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- God is not human & does not possess human emotions or qualities. God is the necessary absolute being.
Yet he wrote a book for humans to worship him. 
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Do you think that there is one GOD or more than one GOD?
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Yet he wrote a book for humans to worship him. 
- God, indeed, does whatever He pleases. God does not write though, for He is not a body. Your point?

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- God, indeed, does whatever He pleases. God does not write though, for He is not a body. Your point?
God willed the book to be written in his words. Didn’t he? Does the Quran matter?

Anyway you said “God is not human & does not possess human emotions or qualities.”
That is an obvious lie. 
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God willed the book to be written in his words. Didn’t he? Does the Quran matter?
- What exactly is your point?

Anyway you said “God is not human & does not possess human emotions or qualities.”
That is an obvious lie. 
- Well, it can not be a lie. That's metaphysically impossible. A necessary being can not be contingent on human emotions, lest be a contingent being –which is a contradiction. A square-circle. God can not be also not-God at the same time! "There is nothing like unto Him". Also, I am no Christian, so you may wanna change tactics a little bit.

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@Yassine
God.. willed.. the.. Quran.. to.. be.. written.. in.. his.. words.. for.. humans.. to.. worship.. him.. through.., saying.. God.. posses.. no.. human.. emotions.. or.. qualities.., is.. an.. obvious.. lie. 
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God.. willed.. the.. Quran.. to.. be.. written.. in.. his.. words.. for.. humans.. to.. worship.. him.. through.., saying.. God.. posses.. no.. human.. emotions.. or.. qualities.., is.. an.. obvious.. lie. 
- You are supposed to fill in the blanks. Fail. 

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I am sorry, but am I seriously reading here some people saying great replacement rhetoric? Aside from the ones that are joking, these should be red flags.
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Saying truth does not underpin anyone. Your gods are scientists and you believe them blindly. 
Mere human gods. Your law is the law of jungle.
You are taking humanity to the level of animals.
No humanly norms no humanly morals and you disgust heavenly attributes of human and appraise earthly non existing attributes of human.


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و علیکم اسلام و رحمته و براکاته 
Brother to whom you are talking these stuff, they cannot understand, they do not bother to check what is new world order and what is great game. How gold smith family controlled this bogus paper currency. 
I do not reply to these stupid question becuse the information is very long about these matters and it does not effect us a bit.
Worldy wealth is not our concern otherwise our prophet saw having whole Arabia under
him  and our caliphs having 8 big provinces under them among which was Persia and Rome yet they lives a life of normal person.
They think we care about money. No we try to please Allah only, and we are against devil which means we are on favour or humanity.
Those who take from poor and give to rich are followers of devil.
We know the whole game. Believe us we know the whole game. We having all the resources but still poor shows that we are like moses and jesus and other prophets. We show them that we are like our ancestors who were on right path. We are not like Pharaohs who had all the controls over resources at that time and prophet Moses remain wandering for 40 years in barren land. And at the time of Jesus he was persecuted and was nearly killed by the oppressors. We are on right path. 
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Saying truth does not underpin anyone.
A synonym for underpin is stagnant. 

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Undermines I wanted to say
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@tigerlord
To be more nuanced, truth is the rule, lies are the exception. 
truth tends to uplift, lies tend to diminish. 

I don’t think lies are the exception when it comes to science. 
Being informed how to navigate this world is important. Doesn’t mean faith can’t help as well.
We all have faith to one extent or another.
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Saying truth does not underpin anyone. Your gods are scientists and you believe them blindly. 
Mere human gods. Your law is the law of jungle.
You are taking humanity to the level of animals.
No humanly norms no humanly morals and you disgust heavenly attributes of human and appraise earthly non existing attributes of human.
You see, that's my point, you defy the Prophet and denigrate the Qur'an, saying your truth undermines Islam.

You should have a beer and a bacon sandwich now.
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You do not know what I was replying to.
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Well, science is knowledge and information about how thing works in the world, I always wonder, how when we know about something ever negate the existence of Allah or god. The sentiments arose becuse or specific reason. Which I have talked in my YouTube channel in a video names how atheism got into us. I will provide link in next message.
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Well, science is knowledge and information about how thing works in the world, I always wonder, how when we know about something ever negate the existence of Allah or god. The sentiments arose becuse or specific reason. Which I have talked in my YouTube channel in a video names how atheism got into us. I will provide link in next message.
Do Jews and Muslims pray to the same God?

It is often assumed that the God of Islam is a fierce war-like deity, in contrast to the God of Christianity and Judaism, who is one of love and mercy. And yet, despite the manifest differences in how they practise their religions, Jews, Christians and Muslims all worship the same God.

Is Allah the God of Abraham?
The most prominent Abrahamic religions are Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. They—alongside Samaritanism, Druzism, the Baháʼí Faith, and Rastafari—all share a common foundation in worshipping Abraham's God, who is called Yahweh in Hebrew and Allah in Arabic.

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Well, science is knowledge and information about how thing works in the world, I always wonder, how when we know about something ever negate the existence of Allah or god. The sentiments arose becuse or specific reason. Which I have talked in my YouTube channel in a video names how atheism got into us. I will provide link in next message.

, “Atheism is spreading like wildfire” in the Middle East. Hasan Suroor, author of Who Killed Liberal Islam?, notes that there’s a tale “we don’t usually hear about how Islam is facing a wave of desertion by young Muslims suffering from a crisis of faith, ... abandoned by moderate Muslims, mostly young men and women, ill at ease with growing extremism in their communities. ... Even deeply conservative countries with strict anti-apostasy regimes like Pakistan, Iran and Sudan have been hit by desertions.” That tale, however, is now more public: “I know at least six atheists who confirmed that [they are atheists] to me,” noted Fahad AlFahad, 31, a marketing consultant and human rights activist in Saudi Arabia, in 2014. “Six or seven years ago, I wouldn’t even have heard one person say that. Not even a best friend would confess that to me,” but the mood has changed and now they feel freer to divulge this dangerous secret.

Whitaker concludes that Arab non-believers “are not a new phenomenon but their numbers seem to be growing.” Momen, an Egyptian adds, “My guess is, every Egyptian family contains an atheist, or at least someone with critical ideas about Islam.” Professor Amna Nusayr of al-Azhar University states that 4 million Egyptians have left Islam. Todd Nettleton finds that, by some estimates, “70 percent of Iran’s people have rejected Islam.”