Nothing in your reply refutes anything I said. Also, you still didnt explain why members of religion which promotes peace so much have such great urge to kill and threat those who burn quran, or mock alah.
I see.So can you tell me where those "individuals" get this idea that it is right to murder another for say, writing a novel?
"Repel evil with what is better" (41:34)"Do not let hatred of a people prevent you from being just. Be just; that is nearer to righteousness"(5:8)
i didn't say that, what i mean is that each religion must be respected
For believers, their faith is even more precious—so insults to it can hurt deeply.
No, my religion doesnt teach any eternal infinite torture in the afterlife.Now, I dont see why do you fail to respond to my argument. Is it too strong?Islam teaches that all non-muslims will be burned alive forever in a fire.So much for being a religion of peace and non-subjugation.I agree that muslims make islam look bad.Really, if Islam is the most peaceful religion, then you would at least think its followers will be most peaceful people, but no. The most peaceful country currently is Japan, with least murders. So I guess religion of alah doesnt work.
Would you say Taoism promotes violence, or were those individuals just failing to embody its teachings?
I have no any respect for religion which justifies eternal torture of atheists by alah. I dont see why you think that your religion deserves respect. Muslims never respect anyone. They even have degrading names for atheists in their holy texts. I dont see how can you ask for nonsense such as quran to be respected. Why should I respect religion which tells me that I will be eternally tortured after I die?
It hurts me much more if I dont insult nonsense such as islam, so they should just deal with it, really.
No religion is defined by its worst followers. It’s defined by its core values.
If Taoism promotes peace, and its followers do violence, then it simply means Taoism fails as a religion, just like Islam.Now, I dont really see whats your argument. I say "islam is bad" and you say "taoism is bad too". Well, sure, we can agree that they are both bad.
I see.So can you tell me where those "individuals" get this idea that it is right to murder another for say, writing a novel?The "idea" of killing for blasphemy doesn’t come from the religion—it comes from people misusing it.
Well, is a quality of religion determined by quality of all its followers? Islam fails there too.As for core values, the core values of Quran are burning all non-muslims alive eternally in a fire.So I guess you can understand that as a non-muslim, I cannot really respect a religion which threatens to torture me eternally unless I subjugate to it. Its not a religion which wants peace with non-muslims. Quran promotes clear hate for all non-muslims.
I didn't ask about "blasphemy". I asked where did those "individuals" get this idea that it is right to murder another for say, writing a novel?
You and I can agree that human behavior is often the problem, not the ideals or values a faith upholds.
The Qur’an’s concept of the afterlife is about justice, not hatred.
It's important to understand the context of the verse. Surah Al-Baqarah (2:6) refers specifically to those who knowingly reject the truth with arrogance and stubbornness, not to all non-Muslims in general.
So you think its justice to torture all atheists eternally in a fire, and you expect me to respect such psychopathic view?
I didn't ask about "blasphemy". I asked where did those "individuals" get this idea that it is right to murder another for say, writing a novel?The idea of murdering someone for writing a novel does not come from the core teachings of Islam; [........................]Acts of violence against writers or critics stem from people distorting religious ideas.
So you think its justice to torture all atheists eternally in a fire, and you expect me to respect such psychopathic view?
There are many surahs in Quran saying all non-believers will burn alive eternally, even if they do good deeds. Now, you can pretend that Quran doesnt say what it says, but that just makes me not respect your religion even more since you are basically a liar.
- Non-believers are rewarded for their good deeds in this world and, depending on Allah’s mercy, in the afterlife.
Then who's religious idea and which religious book have they distorted?
The concept of eternal punishment is found in many religions, often as a consequence for rejecting guidance rather than a random act of cruelty.
I didn't ask about "blasphemy". I asked where did those "individuals" get this idea that it is right to murder another for say, writing a novel?The idea of murdering someone for writing a novel does not come from the core teachings of Islam; [........................]Acts of violence against writers or critics stem from people distorting religious ideas.Then who's religious idea and which religious book have they distorted?"They are acting on false interpretations of religion, not the Qur'an or authentic teachings of Islam".
The concept of eternal punishment is found in many religions, often as a consequence for rejecting guidance rather than a random act of cruelty.So you think eternally burning all atheists alive in a fire is not cruel? And you still dont understand why I dont respect religion which promises to burn me alive eternally after I die?Interesting.
- Just like a murderer who destroys lives can face life imprisonment, someone who spreads evil without remorse faces eternal consequence.
- You call it cruelty, but consider this: Should a mass murderer face the same fate as an innocent person?
- If someone knowingly rejects goodness and spreads evil for eternity, isn’t eternal consequence fair?
"Burning eternally in Hell will be by the command of Allah alone. On the Day of Judgment, His justice will prevail—there will be no other power, no appeal, and no injustice. On that day, you will witness the reality of His judgment for yourself. The punishment will fit the sin, nothing more, nothing less. If the concept of eternal punishment troubles you, perhaps it’s because, deep down, you sense the gravity of that accountability—and that concern is valid."
The Quran mentions that non-believers who were unaware of the message or misunderstood it due to no fault of their own are treated with fairness.
Stop skirting the question.So then what religion and what interpretation of what book are they acting on?
If someone commits violence claiming it’s from religious teachings, does their claim automatically prove the religion promotes it?
Think about this: If a scientist misuses scientific knowledge to create a destructive weapon, do we blame science itself or the individual’s intent? The same logic applies here. People committing violence may claim to act on religious teachings, but unless their actions align with the actual scripture and the life of the Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ), their claim holds no weight.
If the core texts of Islam—the Qur'an and authentic hadiths—don’t command such acts, then attributing their behavior to Islam is a false association. A person’s misuse of a concept doesn’t define the concept itself.
So, I ask you: Are you judging the religion by the manual (Qur’an) and the Prophet’s example or by the actions of those who clearly act against both?
- ‘And for those who disbelieve and deny Our signs—those will be the companions of Hell, abiding eternally therein as recompense for what they used to deny.’ (64:10)
