To be fair you don't usually clearly state your opinions so there is nothing to rebut.
Just thought I'd start by reposting this quote from you to note the irony of you constantly arguing that I don't back up my positions, meanwhile this is at least the second or third time in this thread alone that I've posted a multi thousand character response addressing multiple different points you made (the last post was 10 different sections) and you ignored every point I made except the one you cherry picked out of the post.
This is the projection I'm talking about.
All you literally have to do is google the Black bloc to see how they operate and see this is not about opportunism
The overwhelming majority of the people out there looting stores and burning buildings down were not in black bloc, and even for those that were, what you are wearing does not prove what your ideological (if any) motivations were. This was an extremely unique time in American history where civil unrest was taking place all over the country for a prolonged period of time, so anyone deciding to take advantage of the moment could have easily dressed the part for whatever personal motivation.
And this isn't just theoretical, google the story of the guy dressed in black wearing a mask who protested by walking up to a closed AutoZone with a hammer and breaking all of the windows right near the rest of the protesters. Except one problem... He wasn't a protester. He was an off duty police officer dressing up like the protesters so that he could cause damage that would later be blamed on BLM. And I don't even need to Google what Fox news broadcasted that evening to be pretty damn confident at least some segment of their huge audience heard the bullshit story but not the correction. This is the kind of stuff I be talking about.
then all you have to do is read Das kapital and read other Marxist writers as well as look at Marxist revolutions to see that the lumpenproletariat by design are used as cannon fodder to protect the revolutionaries who are looting and rioting.
I asked in the last post for you to explain why you think this talking point has any value in this conversation. Still waiting on your insight.
So no the looting was not merely opportunistic
I never said it was "merely" opportunistic, I said it was little more than opportunistic. So providing some alternative motivation by some nefarious shadowy group you conspiracy theorists love to refer to simply as "they" does little to show otherwise.
and ai am not sure how it helps your argument even if it is to portray leftists as opportunistic animals anyway
The point WyIted, is to separate those who were looting and rioting from "leftism". The point is that it is logically fallacious at best and dishonest at worst to conflate burning buildings down with left wing ideology. It doesn't matter if the people doing this are on the political left any more than it matters if a group of child rapists are all christians. The ideology is a separate thing from the actions being carried out.
And the reason what, in case you are wondering, separates this from us leftists holding MAGA responsible for the January 6th rioters is because those rioters were inspired by, defended by, and then pardoned by, the indisputable leader of MAGA whom you all voted for and continue to unequivocally support despite all of this. That makes you complicit. You cannot reasonably argue the same the other way around no matter how hard you try.
