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In good faith southern states should be priority. 
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Modern leftist thought didn't exist that far back.
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The thoughts of liberation has existed since time and memorial. So has the filtering/plugging thoughts of conservatism. 
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The liberal movement from back then has descendants within libertarians and the cuckservatives are descendents of the way James Madison did politics for the most part.

Modern leftists aren't really concerned with individual liberty. Obviously. They may pretend to with some pet issues like abortion but generally they are opposed to things like freedom of speech, freedom of association and self governance.

The leftists I am referring to are splinter groups from Marxism. Anyone labeling themselves a progressive or anything left of progressive would fit into that category

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I almost want to think you are dangerously close to figuring out that leftists use black people as cannon fodder l, but I have a feeling you are so deep in denial that overcoming the thought processes you have as a result of white people telling you what ideology to have is impossible.
Translation: "I have no rebuttal to any of the points you made so instead I'm just going to vaguely accuse you of not thinking for yourself thereby relieving me of any obligation to rationally defend anything I've said while still looking like I'm on top."
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It was caught on tape all the republicans running to escape the rioters.
Apparently that doesn't matter. If I can show you video of republicans not running for the exits it seems that cancels out the videos of them doing it.

MAGA logic.
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Modern leftists aren't really concerned with individual liberty. Obviously. They may pretend to with some pet issues like abortion but generally they are opposed to things like freedom of speech, freedom of association and self governance.
You don't know what any of those terms mean.
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Polls show the left is very weak on 1st amendment rights.
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Modern leftists aren't really concerned with individual liberty. Obviously. They may pretend to with some pet issues like abortion but generally they are opposed to things like freedom of speech, freedom of association and self governance. 

The leftists I am referring to are splinter groups from Marxism. Anyone labeling themselves a progressive or anything left of progressive would fit into that category
What do you think of worker cooperatives? 
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The left is tanking hard in polls as they scramble to preserve the 4th branch of government. It's clear just how deep the waste, fraud, and abuse goes among those unelected contracted alphabet agencies and exactly who was benefiting the most from it.
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They may pretend to with some pet issues like abortion
They would oppose unregulated abortion for sure. Only state approved facilities.

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Translation: "I have no rebuttal to any of the points you made so instead I'm just going to vaguely accuse you of not thinking for yourself thereby relieving me of any obligation to rationally defend anything I've said while still looking like I'm on top."


There it is. Your trapped bro. I used to follow a lot of stuff the black bloc faction of antifa was doing. You guys are literally cannon fodder. Go join a more militant antifa group and see. It's not a new strategy. They were doing the same thing in the 60s.


You should be paranoid about how your thoughts are formed. We are all susceptible to propaganda. You see the actual left. You know the Marxists. They quite literally refer to blacks as the "lumpenproletariat "


Essentially in Marxism the lumpen proletariat aren't even really humans so the organizers and this is written about in many communist early works. The only person really privy to this among the famous black leaders anyway was Malcolm X.


You literally thought I was deflecting LOL. For a second I thought you were waking up from your program and know how the organizers use the lumpenproletariat
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I think it's actually pathetic. We literally have uncovered 100 billion in government fraud and wasteful spending and they are mad just because "orange man bad"

They really are brainwashed. I know me and you would be happy if Biden was uncovering corruption but they seem mad that corruption is being uncovered
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What do you think of worker cooperatives?
They are a great ideal. I support them with my business when I am made aware of their existence around me. Unless they start doing woke shit, but if they avoid politics and most do from my experience than I patronize them as much as I can. We need more of them
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Here is what your typical communist thinks of the lumpenproletariat


Now go ahead and google what group makes up most of the lumpenproletariat.

Actually fuck it i did it. Just read on Wikipedia especially the part where it says the black Panthers thought of most of their people as lumpen proletariat (aka cannon fodder)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lumpenproletariat#:~:text=Laura%20Pulido%20argues%20that%2C%20historically,incarceration%20rates%20among%20African%20Americans.
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The lunpenproletariat  do not start revolutions. They just become cannon fodder. It happened in Russia and it's the norm and an intentional tactic


So when you see a white woman looting a store or people dressed in black that are white and blending in with black protestors to encourage shit like looting than yes they are intentionally trying to create civil unrest and use black people as shield.

You won't wake up so I am wasting my time but just pretend to be a Marxist and start infiltrating black bloc groups. Start on Twitter and see where the rabbit leads.


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I think it's actually pathetic. We literally have uncovered 100 billion in government fraud and wasteful spending and they are mad just because "orange man bad"
Trump has weaponized TDS to force the left to champion positions that only 20% of the population support, like corruption, waste, fraud, housing undocumented criminals, and publicly funded health services for undocumented invaders. Also transgender services for career criminals currently in prison so that males can rape females. They want the Kennedy center to have grooming sessions with children paid with public funds.

Double'R's response is to just double down on more Orangemanbad.

The Democrat party is self destroying itself with TDS. Popularity is tanking fast. Membership is declining. Leadership is absent.  State media is in decline. Cultural centers are torn down.

All because of TDS. They lost the plot, and now everything else.

Stick a fork in it.
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Also, Malcolm X warned about the takeover of the Black Caucus by the establishment cartel.

That's why the deep state had him murdered. He was going to expose the hypocrisy back then that we clearly see today.

"You just can't belong to that Party without analyzing it. I say again, I'm not anti-Democrat, I'm not anti-Republican, I'm not anti-anything. I'm just questioning their sincerity, and some of the strategy that they've been using on our people by promising them promises that they don't intend to keep."

“The White liberal is the worst enemy to America and the worst enemy to the Black man. Let me first explain what I mean by this White liberal. In America there’s no such thing as Democrats and Republicans anymore. That’s antiquated. In America you have liberals and conservatives. This is what the American political structure boils down to among Whites. The only people who are still living in the past and thinks in terms of “I’m a Democrat” or “I’m a Republican” is the American Negro. He’s the one who runs around bragging about party affiliation and he’s the one who sticks to the Democrat or sticks to the Republican, but White people in America are divided into two groups, liberals and Republicans…or rather, liberals and conservatives. And when you find White people vote in the political picture, they’re not divided in terms of Democrats and Republicans, they’re divided consistently as conservatives and as liberal. The Democrats who are conservative vote with Republicans who are conservative. Democrats who are liberals vote with Republicans who are liberals. You find this in Washington, DC. Now the White liberals aren’t White people who are for independence, who are liberal, who are moral, who are ethical in their thinking, they are just a faction of White people who are jockeying for power the same as the White conservatives are a faction of White people who are jockeying for power. Now they are fighting each other for booty, for power, for prestige and the one who is the football in the game is the Negro. Twenty million Black people in this country are a political football, a political pawn an economic football, an economic pawn, a social football, a social pawn...”
― Malcolm X
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Also they voted against the Laken Riley act, a position only 20% of the population supported...

Also opposed protecting women's sports from biological men, another wildly unpopular position...

TBH, I don't know ANY issue the Democrats are on the popular side of ATM. Even Abortion. Most people want the States to enshrine protections into law that the Feds cannot touch. Democrats want to have the ability to overrule those State protections with judicial activism on the federal level. Their TDS was so blinding they didn't recognize that State protections for abortions was something they should have gotten behind. Should have been a very easy win.
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Polls show the left is very weak on 1st amendment rights.
Polls at one point also showed the earth is flat.

All these polls prove is how ignorant and susceptible the American people are to bullshit. The republicans pretend democrats are bad on the first amendment because they got banned on social media (but couldn't give a shit less when Elon Musk actually bans people for left wing speech he doesn't like), meanwhile Donald Trump has threatened repeatedly to use the power of the federal government to attack news outlets and sued a pollster for a poll he didn't like and you guys have no concerns at all.

Reality is the opposite of what you guys claim, but you'll keep pretending democrats are the problem and when confronted with actual facts you will continue to point to polls as a defense because you know you are full of shit.
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You should be paranoid about how your thoughts are formed. We are all susceptible to propaganda.
Been there, done that. It's called critical thinking and epistemology, and practicing what I've spent years studying is literally the reason I frequent this site. The point is to study how knowledge is gained so that we are able to determine whether our positions are legitimate or based on nonsense. There are rules to this, you should take the time to learn them.

One of the best ways to determine whether your position is legitimate is to make the case to those who disagree with you and see if any of them can refute it. Unfortunately, most of the rational insightful members have departed and now I'm left to go back and forth with people who will ignore every argument I make and instead just tell me I need to learn to think for myself. *Sigh*

I think it's actually pathetic. We literally have uncovered 100 billion in government fraud and wasteful spending 
And yet Trump hasn't provided a single shred of evidence to support any of that, in fact many of the things he said when asked about his moves are factually not true.

They really are brainwashed.
The projection is staggering. You repeat Trump's claims uncritically despite the fact that he is the most cartoonishly transparent bullshitter who has ever held public office in this country. His verbal diarrhea of allegations besides being completely vague to the point of meaningless and without evidence is also easily predictable. He repeats the same nonsense so much you can see how bored he is repeating it on his expressionless face in his monotone voice. The sillyness of it reminds me of when one of Vladimir Putin's opponents "fell out of a window", except you're the guy going "wow it's crazy how many people fall out of windows".
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One of the best ways to determine whether your position is legitimate is to make the case to those who disagree with you and see if any of them can refute it.
Wrong. Notice how I brought up how the lumpenproletariat work and how you ignored it to avoid thinking about how blacks are used by leftists as cannon fodder because you would like to keep metaphorically sucking the dick of effeminate white leftists.



Your best bet is to actually start arguing devil's advocate. Something i did to become a top 5 debaters on DDO, according to the leaderboard anyway. I literally made it to the top 5 debating positions I disagree with.

You don't actually challenge your beliefs. You continue to watch the same types of content that create a confirmation bias and then you further ingrain your beliefs (see article linked) by arguing for the actual stuff you believe here.
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Trump has weaponized TDS to force the left to champion positions that only 20% of the population support, like corruption, waste, fraud
This is just so incredibly stupid.

The richest man in the world who just spent hundreds of millions of dollars to elect Trump is now wielding more power than anyone else in his administration. The investigations into this man's companies have suddenly all been stopped, and his net worth since the election has gone up by about $100 billion fueled by his companies stocks skyrocketing given that he is one of the largest contractors of the federal government. Oh, and as far as the conflicts of interest there... Don't worry, he'll let us know if there are any and recuse himself.

And also, Trump just fired all of the inspector generals. You know, the people whose literal job it is to investigate corruption within the government.

Oh, and Trump just gutted the federal agencies whose job it is to find fraud outside of the government.

And yet you are not bothered by any of this. So tell me more about how I don't care about corruption all because I... I don't know... support USAID?

Hypocrisy doesn't even cover this. It's beyond satire. Trump derangement syndrome is definitely real, it just doesn't mean what you think it does.
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You know, the people whose literal job it is to investigate corruption within the government.

Hmmmm, maybe if they did their job, The Orangeman wouldn't be trolling your party to support the 20% side of 80-20 issues...lulz...


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The projection is staggering. You repeat Trump's claims uncritically despite the fact that he is the most cartoonishly transparent bullshitter who has ever held public office in this country. His verbal diarrhea of allegations besides being completely vague to the point of meaningless and without evidence is also easily predictable. He repeats the same nonsense so much you can see how bored he is repeating it on his expressionless face in his monotone voice. The sillyness of it reminds me of when one of Vladimir Putin's opponents "fell out of a window", except you're the guy going "wow it's crazy how many people fall out of windows".
Trump had to do what he did to get the American people to re-elect him. The world was shocked America put a convicted criminal in the White House. 38 countries have laws that banned Trump from entering their country.
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One of the best ways to determine whether your position is legitimate is to make the case to those who disagree with you and see if any of them can refute it. 
Wrong.
lol ok bro.

Google "peer review process in science". Note the similarities between that and what I just described.

Notice how I brought up how the lumpenproletariat work and how you ignored it
I ignored it because it's entirely irrelevant to this conversation.

to avoid thinking about how blacks are used by leftists as cannon fodder
I gave you specific reasons why the BLM riots do not compare to January 6th. I explained what started them, why focusing on one part of them is appropriate depending on what the allegation is, why that point of comparison matters with regards to the political spin, and how they have been misrepresented by right wing propaganda. You offered no response to any of that. Instead all you did was offer your little buzz word in an attempt to allege my "true" motivations with no support for how that allegation is warranted.

If if that's too many words for you, you just made shit up about me to avoid addressing anything I actually argued - you skipped right to the end and forgot to apply any critical thought.
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You know, the people whose literal job it is to investigate corruption within the government.

Hmmmm, maybe if they did their job
They were genius, that's why Trump fired them.

The Orangeman wouldn't be trolling your party to support the 20% side of 80-20 issues...lulz...
Are you capable of stringing together a series of meaningful words to defend your position on anything that's not "dUh I'm right because other people say so"?
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Are you capable of stringing together a series of meaningful words to defend your position on anything that's not "dUh I'm right because other people say so"?
He is just being critical of you.
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He is just being critical of you.
That would require a string of meaningful words, I don't see any.