Trump's tariffs worked. Canada and Mexico have already caved to Trump's demands and tariffs will be removed
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@WyIted
There must be a way to do this without crashing the stock market.
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@WyIted
Trump's tariffs worked. Canada and Mexico have already caved to Trump's demands and tariffs will be removed
They both threatened retaliatory tariffs and after discussion with them, Trump caved in, once again, Trump is just talking, it's performance politics for his base.
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@Savant
There must be a way to do this without crashing the stock market.
You mean like starting with a phone call to our close allies rather than ending with a phone call to allies you have already alienated and driven away for no reason?
But that wouldn't be the least bit chaotic, that's boring TV, Trump doesn't want that kind of optics, this is performance politics, it's reality TV, and everybody knows high drama, controversy, and chaotic, unpredictable situations draws a bigger audience, it's all about ratings, this is entertainment politics, this is about ratings. You just don't get that many clicks with rational, peaceful, low-key politics, that's boring shit hardly gets any clicks at all, you can't get people to change the channel with that stuff, the ratings would be terrible. Perhaps the stock market is just missing the point, the stock market should just be thankful they get to be part of the show, they get to be on TV when everybody is watching, they need to appreciate that it's a big show, a really bis show, the biggest show ever, nobody ever saw such a big show, it's just yuge.
The world needs to know Trump is reckless, that's good TV, our allies need to know we can't be trusted, that's good TV, and our enemies need to know our allies are looking for a friend, it's all good TV.
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@Savant
There must be a way to do this without crashing the stock market.
Bro just buy when it sinks. You know the economy is going to expand under Trump. Take extra hours at work or do whatever it takes when it happens so you can come up
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@WyIted
I am glad that Trump was smart enough to remove tariffs. He was one step away from trade war.
Now, I am guessing tariffs on China remain?
"President Donald Trump has agreed to hold off imposing 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico for 30 days, pulling the North American neighbours back from the brink of a potentially damaging trade war.
After last-minute calls with Trump, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau agreed to reinforce his country's border with the US to clamp down on migration and the flow of the deadly drug fentanyl.
Earlier, Trump made a deal with Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum. She agreed to reinforce the northern border with troops. In return the US would limit the flow of guns into Mexico.
But a US tariff of 10% on Chinese imports has come into effect, after a deadline of 00:01 EST (05:00 GMT) on Tuesday passed."
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@Savant
@WyIted
Exactly, the only people losing money in the stock market is the OMFG TRUMP SUCKS club panic selling and losing money whenever Trump so much as sneezes. Those people deserve to impoverish themselves. Just hold and buy the predictable dips, and you make out great.
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@WyIted
just buy when it sinks
If Trump supporters know the economy is going to do great, why don't they buy it when it sinks and cancel out the sellers? Pretty much no one can reliably beat the market, if that's what you're implying.
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@Savant
We are doing exactly that.
This was a mad predictable manufactured dip to anyone not caught in a TDS bubble. It was always going to go back up, and now, I already covered my trading fees and then some with the latest dip. No reasonable person actually believed the far-left liars when they "knew" Trump wanted to start a trade war.
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@Best.Korea
I am glad that Trump was smart enough to remove tariffs. He was one step away from trade war.Now, I am guessing tariffs on China remain?
Trump saves Tik Tok then levies tariffs on China.
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@Greyparrot
That's some losses recovered. And the market generally goes up anyway.
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@Savant
If Trump supporters know the economy is going to do great, why don't they buy it when it sinks and cancel out the sellers? Pretty much no one can reliably beat the market, if that's what you're implying.
You don't have to beat the market. It averages what 8% a year. If people panic sell because they have no clue how tarrifa work you can go ahead and buy, you know it's gaining more than 8% under Trump anyway
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@WyIted
I mean, some people are going to invest anyway. But there's also people who might invest earlier or later based on if they think the market is going to beat average returns. And because of that, the expected returns are basically the average unless you have inside information.
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@Savant
If Trump supporters know the economy is going to do great, why don't they buy it when it sinks and cancel out the sellers? Pretty much no one can reliably beat the market, if that's what you're implying.
"WILL THERE BE SOME PAIN? YES, MAYBE (AND MAYBE NOT!). BUT WE WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, AND IT WILL ALL BE WORTH THE PRICE THAT MUST BE PAID," Trump wrote.
Trump was expecting countries to pay him the price to avoid some pain. But he was not expecting Mexico , Canada and China to counter with tariffs of their own on American imports. Trump quickly caved in and suspended the tariffs.
ITS ALREADY BEING SPUN THAT TRUMP CAVED BECAUSE HE SUSPENDED THE TARRIFS FOR 30 DAYS. Also its being said that Canada and Mexico were going to do what Trump wants them to do anyway under the Biden administration. They just didn't get around to implementing before Biden left office.
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@sadolite
ITS ALREADY BEING SPUN THAT TRUMP CAVED BECAUSE HE SUSPENDED THE TARRIFS FOR 30 DAYS. Also it’s being said that Canada and Mexico were going to do what Trump wants them to do anyway under the Biden administration. They just didn't get around to implementing before Biden left office.
Trump caved in because he suspended the tariffs even before it took effect. Now Trump has no place to deport illegals migrants with Mexico and Canada adding 10,000 troops each to the border.
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@Shila
Point proven.
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@WyIted
Issuing 10,000 troops to the U.S.-Mexico border is almost routine at this point for America’s southern neighbor. In 2019, Mexico sent 15,000 troops to the border, and sent another 10,000 in 2021 to help with migration. In 2022, Mexico agreed to invest $1.5 billion to help Joe Biden upgrade the border, and in 2023 implemented 15 administrative actions to assist in America’s deportation of migrants.
Trump was also roasted for his lackluster arrangement with Canada, which saw Prime Minister Justin Trudeau commit to a $1.3 billion border plan—that was arranged in December. Trudeau also pledged to appoint a “fentanyl czar” and list cartels as terrorists, though just a fraction of America’s black-market fentanyl imports cross the nation’s northern border. Approximately 0.2 percent of America’s fentanyl seizures occur at the Canadian border, according to federal statistics.During an appearance on CNN, Rampell summed up the situation nicely, arguing during a network roundtable that “Trump is trying to repackage the status quo as a victory.”
“That’s what the leaders of these foreign countries are learning,” Rampell said. “You don’t actually have to give Trump anything. You have to let him announce victory on TV.”
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@sadolite
ITS ALREADY BEING SPUN THAT TRUMP CAVED BECAUSE HE SUSPENDED THE TARRIFS FOR 30 DAYS. Also its being said that Canada and Mexico were going to do what Trump wants them to do anyway under the Biden administration. They just didn't get around to implementing before Biden left office.
He accepted measures that these countries were already doing (and yes, that was both during Trump's previous administration and Biden's), things that they had set in place multiple times before without the threat of a trade war, as responses sufficient to warrant backing off his threat to impose tariffs. If your thinking is that they just didn't get around to it, then explain how that $1.3 billion border plan from Canada had already passed over a month ago, or why Mexico has willingly sent troops to the border on multiple occasions without a threat of tariffs. And if all of this could have happened without the threat of tariffs, then how can this be spun as a win?
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@whiteflame
It seems the article was saying that they did those things previously without the need for threats. Is the insinuation that they were cooperative before so they will automatically be cooperative now?
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@Savant
And because of that, the expected returns are basically the average unless you have inside information.
Or information that others are not acting on but yes I have been listening to recordings that aren't well known but things like billionaires in class rooms talking to small groups when they think what they say is not going to get out.
For example we know that Canada does have to lose a good deal of sovereignty because the energy needed for AI can be grabbed quicker from them. So they will be locked into our grid to a certain extent so you can invest in Canadian energy companies. trump also mentioned putting 500 billion into AI so the Nvidia chips and energy from Canada is going to be huge. I know Nvidia just took a dive because of deep seek but what those who are selling don't understand is that Nvidia is being used by China they are just being used secretly and so high level AI is not going to happen without them.
That's why the United States is looking to control the supply lines more.
So yes we are taking more economic control even if it means military forces so just investing in the S & P 500 will get you good returns, especially if you see the sheep fleeing. Like buffet says, do the opposite of the crowd.
But for more specific advice start pouring as much money as you can into Canadian energy
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@WyIted
It seems the article was saying that they did those things previously without the need for threats. Is the insinuation that they were cooperative before so they will automatically be cooperative now?
I wouldn’t call it an insinuation.
Canada literally already did the main thing that Trump says he’s getting them to do (the $1.3 billion). They already were cooperating, but Trump is spinning it as though he somehow got them to cooperate.
Mexico has cooperated multiple times, including with the previous Trump administration, in sending their troops to the border, which Trump claims he secured only because of his threat to impose tariffs this time. Was it automatic because they’d done it before? No. Did it need to be forced out of them by threatening a trade war? Past evidence suggests it was not necessary. It doesn’t seem like Trump tried any other tactics first this time around, so we don’t have anything to compare it to now, which means we have to rely on past behavior.
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@Savant
There must be a way to do this without crashing the stock market.
It already recovered lol. Markets are very liquid
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@ILikePie5
It usually goes up anyway. Going back to where it was is still falling behind.
Trump has made both Canada and Mexico a safer place from Americans by securing their border from American fentanyl dope heads. Trump was forced to find other countries to send American criminals to now that both borders are closed.
President Donald Trump said Tuesday that he was exploring whether he can move forward with El Salvador’s offer to accept and jail violent American criminals in the “most severe cases” even as he and Secretary of State Marco Rubio both say it raises clear legal issues.
Rubio reached an unusual agreement with Salvadoran President Nayib Bukele a day earlier that the Central American country would accept U.S. deportees of any nationality, including American citizens and legal residents who are imprisoned for violent crimes.
“I’m just saying if we had a legal right to do it, I would do it in a heartbeat,” Trump told reporters Tuesday in the Oval Office. “I don’t know if we do or not, we’re looking at that right now.”
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@Savant
It usually goes up anyway. Going back to where it was is still falling behind.
Overall a large period of time, yes. But in comparison to the activity of a few days, the supposed “loss” is a rounding error
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@Shila
President-elect Donald Trump officially announced that he plans to impose a 25% tariff on all imports from California into the United States.
While California Governor Gavin Newsom had publicly vowed to resist any attempts by Trump's administration to force policies promoting freedom on residents of the state, he warned that Trump's tariff could cripple California's already debt-ridden economy.
While California Governor Gavin Newsom had publicly vowed to resist any attempts by Trump's administration to force policies promoting freedom on residents of the state, he warned that Trump's tariff could cripple California's already debt-ridden economy.
"Trump, who promised to be a dictator on day one, is going to impose these tariffs as a way to punish the People's Republic of California," Newsom said. "We won't stand for it. I've already contacted my good friend Xi Jinping and he's going to send Trump a strongly worded letter."
Trump imposed the tariffs in response to looming trade disputes with California. The Golden State exports most of the United States's avocado oil, tofu turkey burgers, red wine, organic bamboo salt water crackers, and paper clips. Despite the U.S. demand for such goods, Trump pledged to stand firm.
"American products for American patriots!" Trump said in a post to his Truth Social account. "We will not allow the majority of the products we consume here in the United States to be produced over there in that communist hell hole. We also urge the brave people of California to stand up against their oppressive regime and fight for freedom."
Trump had also announced that he would impose tariffs on Canada, but only for maple syrup because no one really cares about anything else coming out of Canada.
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@whiteflame
Simple, illegal boarder crossings increased during the Biden administration. If any of these so called agreed to plans would have been implemented there would have been no double digit increases in illegal boarder crossings. Illegal boarder crossing are happening and are being allowed to happen or they are not. Illegal boarder crossings are down from 4000 to 6000 a day to less than 600 a day in one week of the Trump Presidency. But I am sure Canada and Mexico are responsible for that not Trump. But with all that said I am relying on news sources for that information so it could just all be a lie. The Mexicans and south Americans at where I work aren't to happy where I work so there must be a shred of truth to it. Why else would they even talk about it.
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@sadolite
Simple, illegal boarder crossings increased during the Biden administration. If any of these so called agreed to plans would have been implemented there would have been no double digit increases in illegal boarder crossings. Illegal boarder crossing are happening and are being allowed to happen or they are not. Illegal boarder crossings are down from 4000 to 6000 a day to less than 600 a day in one week of the Trump Presidency. But I am sure Canada and Mexico are responsible for that not Trump.
So, two things.
First, you’re right that border crossings have decreased, but all those have apparently been Trump’s doing, like you said. Your argument, however, is that these deals he got with Mexico and Canada were wins because of the declines in border crossings… that already happened? Am I reading that right? Either Trump achieved those reductions through his direct actions or the actions of Mexico and Canada did it before Trump tried to levy those tariffs. It could be both, but notably, neither of those demonstrate the effectiveness of the tariffs.
Second, assuming there is some part of these deals that results in reduced border crossings, please point to the change that was not already in place prior to the threat of tariffs. You’re talking about how it could affect border traffic, not how it has, but if there’s something new in there, point it out. The reason I ask is because your inherent assumption is that these policy changes were both missing from the Biden administration and will be responsible for reductions in this Trump administration. There are a lot of differences between these administrations, so I’d like to know why you think this specific policy difference (assuming there is one) will matter.