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@Casey_Risk
Just noticed the vote total still has my name on it. I unvoted WyIted a while back.
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@whiteflame
Thank you for the correction
Votes:
Banana (3/6): Vader, Savant, Lunatic
Lunatic (1/6): Banana
Earth (1/6): Pie
I understand the reasoning on both Earth and Luna. Not sure why so many people are still on Banana at this point, but her post reads like someone who was following pretty closely along with the game and is coming in with a lot of thoughts. Even if Banana was scum, I don't think her scum partner would give her a whole set of reads to post up front like this.
As for the decision between Luna and Earth, it's mainly one between largely inactivity/fluff posting from the former and the questions on Pie's PGO from the latter. It's harder with Luna because he's had games like this where he's just largely absent and involved only at a surface level as both scum and town. It's harder to explain the questions on Pie's role. Any insight he gains will inform visits, and I don't see why town would be aiming to test a PGO claim in the first place, particularly if they're townreading Pie.
I'm going to sleep on this and decide in the morning, since we have the time whether we get the extra 6 hours or not.
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@ILikePie5
The latter, I don’t like the question about whether my PGO has restrictions. What’s a town reason to ask that question?
A little of a flimsy reason, don't you think? I don't see whats scummy in asking for clarification on a persons role. Unless you think I am mafia and really want a PGO Pie dead for whatever reason.
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@Earth
@Lunatic
@whiteflame
@ILikePie5
@AustinL0926
I don't see whats scummy in asking for clarification on a persons role. Unless you think I am mafia and really want a PGO Pie dead for whatever reason.
Honestly, sounds reasonable enough.
VTL Luna for now. Should be clear based on the posts I and others have made, but I can go more in depth on my reasoning if necessary.
*Should be clear why
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@AustinL0926
Something I forgot to mention: Luna said "You guys know I usually end up being pretty active and involved once I get going" which sounds a lot like what Austin said "Off my memory of Luna's meta, he usually doesn't post much D1 and picks up later on" and I think there's a decent chance Luna used that as a reference for explaining his behavior. I mean, if I was scum, I know I'd want to explain my behavior in a way at least one other person is going to buy. There's also Luna complimenting Austin's skill at the game, which could be buddying (even though I do town read Austin).
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@Earth
A little of a flimsy reason, don't you think? I don't see whats scummy in asking for clarification on a persons role. Unless you think I am mafia and really want a PGO Pie dead for whatever reason.
Why would you as mafia not want me dead? I’m one of the best players. If I had a chink in my armor, only scum have a benefit knowing about it.
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@Savant
Honestly, sounds reasonable enough.
What town reason is there to ask a claimed PGO if he has any restrictions or not?
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@ILikePie5
I can think of some, but I'll wait for Earth to respond so I can get a better read on him.
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@Savant
I can think of some, but I'll wait for Earth to respond so I can get a better read on him.
Fair enough
Votes:
Banana (2/6): Vader, Lunatic
Lunatic (2/6): Banana, Savant
Earth (1/6): Pie
Of course you got avenged by a kid with no bonesYour own story ended worse than Game of ThronesYour son killed your ex, your ex killed your wifeI'm the Lion King, man, but that's a messed up circle of life
- Richard I, "Ragnar Lodbrok vs Richard the Lionheart"
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@Savant
Honestly, sounds reasonable enough.VTL Luna for now. Should be clear based on the posts I and others have made, but I can go more in depth on my reasoning if necessary.
To be honest, I don't think this is a good push for you savant. I get desperation since we are closing in on the end of day, but this is really, really stretchy reasoning, you have to admit. I am here, I am posting. I've posted more than many players, Wylted, earth, banana, etc. You want to lynch me because I don't have a clear scum read on anyone? Why is that behavior more likely to be scum then town? Wouldn't scum be able to virtually justify almost any lynch at this point due to the "end of day phase" desperation phase? I do not see myself as a lazy scum player, and that is kind of the argument right, that I've been lazy this game? I have admitted that to some degree, since the day phase started during the weekend, and I tend to try to enjoy my weekend a bit since its the only time I can switch my sleep schedule, I generally don't want to spend my weekend on the computer as opposed to hanging out with my girlfriend.
But even then I have been posting when prompted. I tend to be a bit more of a reactionary player, I try to spot scum tells based on player activity, someone saying or doing something that pings me, and so far this day phase has been pretty vanilla. The only one really pushing people is you, and I don't scum read you because I feel you are sticking to your town MO (even if I feel the logic for some of your pushes is weak) I can tell it's from a genuine place of trying to stir up activity and get things going.
But anyways, I am going to reread the day phase now and try to offer an alternative lynch since Im up and at work and promised I would.
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@whiteflame
As for the decision between Luna and Earth, it's mainly one between largely inactivity/fluff posting from the former and the questions on Pie's PGO from the latter. It's harder with Luna because he's had games like this where he's just largely absent and involved only at a surface level as both scum and town. It's harder to explain the questions on Pie's role. Any insight he gains will inform visits, and I don't see why town would be aiming to test a PGO claim in the first place, particularly if they're townreading Pie.
Day phase ones usually aren't my favorite, because there is so little to go off of, we are 90% of the time going to mislynch, and since the meta is to lynch (something I have come to terms with and agree is necessary) its generally not fun to lynch someone for virtually no reason, or WIFOM to the extreme. DP2 and onward you can usually use hindsight to analyze lynches and behavior towards them, so the game tends to be a bit more engaging for someone like me later on. That said, there has been some games where I have been more active dp1. I would say recently the Inheritance game is a good example since in absence of behavior I could focus a lot of activity on theme. This theme, while I am familiar with it, isn't something I can really analyze a theme split for yet, and thus kind of makes really talking about it feel pointless until we get more information.
Rasputin vs. Stalin
Jim Henson vs. Stan Lee
Darth Vader vs. Hitler
Steven Spielberg vs. Alfred Hitchcock
Jack the Ripper vs. Hannibal Lecter
Joker vs. Pennywise
Barack Obama vs. Mitt Romney
Mozart vs. Skrillex
Luke Skywalker vs. Harry Potter
Edgar Allan Poe Vs. Stephen King
Albert Einstein vs. Stephen Hawking
J.R.R. Tolkien vs. George R.R. Martin
James Bond vs. Austin Powers
Claimslist
Full Claims
Greyparrot- Steve Jobs vs Bill Gates- Millionaire (can leave a message on death for town to read)
ILikePie5- Eastern Philosophers vs Western Philosophers- Paranoid Gun Owner
Character Claims
WyIted- Trump vs Scrooge
Partial Claims
whiteflame- On whiteflames list
Savant- On whiteflames list
Lunatic- On whiteflames list
Vader- Not on the list, S5
AustinL0926- Not on the list, S2
Unclaimed
Earth (egos)
Banana (redeemed)
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@Earth
@iamanabanana
Before this day phase ends we need banana and earth to say at the very least if they were on whiteflames lynch. I believe unless I missed the claims, they are the only ones who haven't contributed this.
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@Lunatic
Earth said he was on the list. Banana is the only one left. What do you think about Earth’s question?
My rap battle is not on the list.
Also unvote. I can buy lunatic's response for now, and admittedly it is a bit of a stretch. But he is contributing a lot more now, so I guess we will have to watch him and see from here.
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@Lunatic
Bananas opening post actually does give me some scum vibes because she seems to have caught up way too fast. Maybe she actually was reading along but it’s also likely she’s scum and her partner gave her reads or something. Idk just something that pings me but I’ll look over her post again later.
I actually have been reading the game since before I replaced in thank you very much...
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@ILikePie5
Can you link me the question? I am not following
Rasputin vs. Stalin
Jim Henson vs. Stan Lee
Darth Vader vs. Hitler
Steven Spielberg vs. Alfred Hitchcock
Jack the Ripper vs. Hannibal Lecter
Joker vs. Pennywise
Barack Obama vs. Mitt Romney
Mozart vs. Skrillex
Luke Skywalker vs. Harry Potter
Edgar Allan Poe Vs. Stephen King
Albert Einstein vs. Stephen Hawking
J.R.R. Tolkien vs. George R.R. Martin
James Bond vs. Austin Powers
Claimslist
Full Claims
Greyparrot- Steve Jobs vs Bill Gates- Millionaire (can leave a message on death for town to read)
ILikePie5- Eastern Philosophers vs Western Philosophers- Paranoid Gun Owner
Character Claims
WyIted- Trump vs Scrooge
Partial Claims
whiteflame- On whiteflames list
Savant- On whiteflames list
Lunatic- On whiteflames list
Earth- On Whiteflames list
Vader- Not on the list, S5
AustinL0926- Not on the list, S2
Banana- Not on the list
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@iamanabanana
My rap battle is not on the list.
What season are you from? Everyone not on the list is posting their season to lock scum into a fake claim.
I actually have been reading the game since before I replaced in thank you very much...
I suppose I can't really prove you haven't been, so I guess I just have to take this at face value.
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@Lunatic
What season are you from? Everyone not on the list is posting their season to lock scum into a fake claim.
Mine is on the season 2 playlist...
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@ILikePie5
nvm I see what you are talking about. While I can see earth being curious about a full fledged pgo, (I too was curious since the role is kind of OP, I remember a game from lucky luciano or mestari if you remember him from that ID instead, where it ended np1 because the majority of visiting roles visited royalpaladin who was a pgo.). Its natural to be curious if that role has any sort of nerf measures to it, but I agree it probably isn't worth asking publicly. I had a pgo in my game, but it would only have effected the first person that submitted an action if chosen, and seeing as earth was just that role, I can see him being curious. But when you are suggesting to lynch yourself, it seemed obvious to me that it was a full fledged pgo and I kind of didn't really think more about it after that.
I don't know what to do so just going to make pie a defacto double voter until I figure it out
Vtl earth
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@whiteflame
Even if Banana was scum, I don't think her scum partner would give her a whole set of reads to post up front like this.
I know I wouldn't be writing that mega post out. The post indicates some deception on Banana's behalf though. The confusion over the dots.
The random dots make me think the post was written in a Microsoft word program and then copy and pasted. It's not suspicious at all to write in a word document and post here, but Banana's response seems to express a consciousness of guilt.
A consciousness of guilt that is not necessary for doing something a decent amount of players do when giving reads
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@ILikePie5
Why would you as mafia not want me dead? I’m one of the best players. If I had a chink in my armor, only scum have a benefit knowing about it.
This was a reponse I expected. However, I think you over estimate your worth to town. I think, as mafia, I would probably focus my efforts on a strategy thats more robust than "lol fearkill Pie". So yeah, you are probably the best player this game, but mafia should be more worried about potential investigation roles.
It's probably not consciousness of guilt on a reread. It is now coming across more like a mild surprise