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There are now transgender,  lesbians and non binary  ministering in the church. And all against the teaching in the  BIBLE! 
You're right, but not in the Catholic Church. The Church holds that only men can recieve the laying on of hands (which is necessary in order to become a priest).
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Also, would you explain the position of marriage as a sacrament of the church?  If a couple are married outside of the Roman Catholic Church are they truly married? Or would they need to be remarried by the Church if they wished to join the church as members? 
The Catholic Church understands marriage both as a natural institution and, for baptized Christians, as a sacrament. When non-Catholic Christians marry each other—following the norms of their own community—Rome usually recognizes that union as a valid (and if both are baptized, a sacramental) marriage, no additional ceremony required. If at least one of the spouses is Catholic and marries outside the Church without official permission, that marriage is not considered valid according to Catholic law. To rectify this, the couple can seek a convalidation—a simple ceremony that validates their vows under Church jurisdiction. It’s not a “new” wedding but a recognition that now the marriage meets the Catholic form.

Also, would you explain why the Roman Catholic Church excommunicated the Orthodox Church in the original split? Why does history from both the Orthodox and the Protestants and even from some Catholic historians suggest it was because the Orthodox refused to accept the authority of the Papacy and his role in introducing "and the Son" to a certain Creed? 
The East–West Schism, often dated to 1054, was a complex, centuries-long rift fueled by differences in language, culture, theology, and governance, culminating in mutual excommunications. Key flashpoints included disputes over the Pope’s authority—viewed in the West as a unique Petrine primacy and in the East as an overreach—and the West’s unilateral addition of “and the Son” (Filioque) to the Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed. Though it’s sometimes simplified as Rome excommunicating the Orthodox for rejecting papal claims and the Creed’s alteration, deeper issues—such as differing liturgical customs and broader political pressures—had been straining East–West relations long before the final break.

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There are now transgender,  lesbians and non binary  ministering in the church. And all against the teaching in the  BIBLE! 
You're right, but not in the Catholic Church. The Church holds that only men can recieve the laying on of hands (which is necessary in order to become a priest).
Male and Female He created them. 

So this Father/Mother isn't Catholic then? 

Non-binary bisexual Catholic priest wants you to know people of all genders are created in God’s image

Reverend Kori Pacyniak  who identifies as trans, bisexual and non-binary – explained they were raised Catholic but grew disillusioned with the Vatican’s stances on sexuality and women.



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Also, would you explain the position of marriage as a sacrament of the church?  If a couple are married outside of the Roman Catholic Church are they truly married? Or would they need to be remarried by the Church if they wished to join the church as members? 
The Catholic Church understands marriage both as a natural institution and, for baptized Christians, as a sacrament. When non-Catholic Christians marry each other—following the norms of their own community—Rome usually recognizes that union as a valid (and if both are baptized, a sacramental) marriage, no additional ceremony required. If at least one of the spouses is Catholic and marries outside the Church without official permission, that marriage is not considered valid according to Catholic law. To rectify this, the couple can seek a convalidation—a simple ceremony that validates their vows under Church jurisdiction. It’s not a “new” wedding but a recognition that now the marriage meets the Catholic form.
So to be clear, as I do not wish to misunderstand.  The RC accepts that marriage outside the church is a natural institution. And when you say "baptised Christians" it is also a sacrament, you are referring ONLY to baptised Christians within the RC church. For example, if Presbyterians, who are baptised Christians in the Presbyterian Church, that would not be accepted by the RC as valid.  Presbyterians don't view marriage as a sacrament anyway. Although it is covenant institution.  And is blessed by God. And ought to be viewed extremely highly. Hence, why we say marriage is between a male and a female, and is for life. And must be legally valid, whether by the State or the Church. 

You indicate that this invalidity can be rectified with an extra ceremony. That sounds to me a lot like - unless you are married by the RC then your marriage is not only invalid, but that people without a proper RC ceremony are "living in sin".  The other curious thing I often see is that although RC don't believe in divorce, they sure like to nullify marriages all of the time. I was close friends with a RC gentlemen who'd been married for 20 years. He and his wife had 9 children.  He was born into the RC. And she was a convert. Her conversion was genuine and her lifestyle matched what she now believed.  They were both practicing Catholics, meaning that their lives reflected their teachings and beliefs, (for me, this was rare to see as most RC members I knew didn't even know their beliefs) Yet, they ended up separating. And then their marriage was anulled. What is the difference between the anulment and divorce? Is it just spin? Or a fancy word for the same thing? 


Also, would you explain why the Roman Catholic Church excommunicated the Orthodox Church in the original split? Why does history from both the Orthodox and the Protestants and even from some Catholic historians suggest it was because the Orthodox refused to accept the authority of the Papacy and his role in introducing "and the Son" to a certain Creed? 
The East–West Schism, often dated to 1054, was a complex, centuries-long rift fueled by differences in language, culture, theology, and governance, culminating in mutual excommunications. Key flashpoints included disputes over the Pope’s authority—viewed in the West as a unique Petrine primacy and in the East as an overreach—and the West’s unilateral addition of “and the Son” (Filioque) to the Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed. Though it’s sometimes simplified as Rome excommunicating the Orthodox for rejecting papal claims and the Creed’s alteration, deeper issues—such as differing liturgical customs and broader political pressures—had been straining East–West relations long before the final break.
Thanks for providing your explanation. I don't disagree that there were many pressures that arose prior to the schism. Sometimes in hindsight we do simplify things to try and make sense of it.  Interestingly, I agreed with the West in that particular situation. At least in respect of the doctrine. I'm not sure of the process of course and I think that both the East and the West chose to make it more difficult than was necessary.  And as a Protestant, I also reject the so-called Petrine primacy.  Church history records the general evolution of how that came to become the dominant view in the West. And there are quite intriguing remarks by both sides that give us all room to pause and consider.  
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There are only male priests in Catholicism. On the other hand, other denomations (such as some Protestants) have women priests, for example.
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Marriage
In Catholic teaching, any two validly baptized Christians—including Presbyterians—who freely exchange consent are understood to enter a genuine, sacramental marriage, even if their own community doesn’t label marriage a sacrament. The Church does require Catholics to marry according to “canonical form” (in a Catholic ceremony or with official dispensation), so if a Catholic marries outside these norms, that marriage may be deemed invalid until it’s “convalidated” under Church jurisdiction. Regarding annulments, they differ from divorce: a divorce attempts to dissolve a valid bond, whereas an annulment states, after careful investigation, that a fundamental requirement—like free consent or the capacity to undertake marriage—was absent from the very start, meaning the couple never had a valid sacramental marriage in the Church’s eyes, even if they appeared happily wed and raised a family.

Schism
Despite the gradual, centuries-long development of the papacy’s external structures and its articulation in ecclesial law, the Catholic tradition holds that its core reality traces back to Christ’s designation of Peter as the “rock” (Matthew 16:18) and His command to “feed my sheep” (John 21:17). The apostles, while each holding their own authority, remained in communion with Peter, whose unique role is evident not only in the Gospel accounts—where he’s consistently named first—but also in Acts, where he often speaks or acts on behalf of the nascent Church. From this vantage, the papacy, as Peter’s successor in the See of Rome, is understood to be more than a mere organizational convenience: it’s the visible sign of unity in faith and communion for the universal Church. Even though historical circumstances shaped the way the papacy functioned over time, the Catholic conviction is that the essential Petrine office—established by Christ and recognized in the apostolic community—remains genuine and binds the faithful in one visible fellowship.

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Marriage
In Catholic teaching, any two validly baptized Christians—including Presbyterians—who freely exchange consent are understood to enter a genuine, sacramental marriage, even if their own community doesn’t label marriage a sacrament. The Church does require Catholics to marry according to “canonical form” (in a Catholic ceremony or with official dispensation), so if a Catholic marries outside these norms, that marriage may be deemed invalid until it’s “convalidated” under Church jurisdiction. Regarding annulments, they differ from divorce: a divorce attempts to dissolve a valid bond, whereas an annulment states, after careful investigation, that a fundamental requirement—like free consent or the capacity to undertake marriage—was absent from the very start, meaning the couple never had a valid sacramental marriage in the Church’s eyes, even if they appeared happily wed and raised a family.
thanks for your response.  I still feel as though you are saying that unless one is married in RC then it is not entirely valid. I read your words, but the qualifications keep on keeping on. As for the annulments, I understand what you are saying. Certainly that is how it has been explained to me before. Experience however sees that such is sometimes wordspin. The marriage I was talking about above, involved a close personal friend of mine, who ended up going to Brazil to get his marriage annulled. I feel for his wife. She had left everything to marry him,  and then he cheated on her, and wanted to move on. I know, because we talked about it. And I could see the adulterous relationship evolving, despite my warning to him. He left behind his wife with 9 children, half of which had severe autism. The annulment meant she couldn't press legalities in the law which would have been available under a divorce. the problem was - there marriage was valid. It had always been valid. But somehow that didn't matter in the end - since RC don't believe in divorce. Although, from my point of view, every anulment is effectively a divorce. Still, it's a matter for the RC, but I will say, the practice in real life, doesn't make the RC any more attractive. If they for instance, had said, well we don't believe in divorce, so let's see if we can make this marriage work, that would be one thing. But that was never the case. At least in this situation. 


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Despite the gradual, centuries-long development of the papacy’s external structures and its articulation in ecclesial law, the Catholic tradition holds that its core reality traces back to Christ’s designation of Peter as the “rock” (Matthew 16:18) and His command to “feed my sheep” (John 21:17). The apostles, while each holding their own authority, remained in communion with Peter, whose unique role is evident not only in the Gospel accounts—where he’s consistently named first—but also in Acts, where he often speaks or acts on behalf of the nascent Church. From this vantage, the papacy, as Peter’s successor in the See of Rome, is understood to be more than a mere organizational convenience: it’s the visible sign of unity in faith and communion for the universal Church. Even though historical circumstances shaped the way the papacy functioned over time, the Catholic conviction is that the essential Petrine office—established by Christ and recognized in the apostolic community—remains genuine and binds the faithful in one visible fellowship.
Thanks again. I appreciate you taking time to respond.  I do understand the reasoning behind the RC's justification for its doctrine on the papacy. I don't agree with it and there are many significant questions that remain unexplained.  Why didn't Paul recognise Peter's authority when he wrote the letter to Rome? Why did Paul and James both call Peter to account in the book of Acts at the first council? I see the first council more like a presbyterian meeting. Elders / apostles all with equal authority.  If anything Jerusalem had a bishop who was James. Paul and James both corrected Peter. that's clear from the book of Acts. 

Peter for sure was one of the close disciples of Jesus. He was engaged with Jesus in some of the most memorable accounts in the gospels. He wrote his own epistles. He was a genuine and highly respected leader.  His command to feed the sheep, I think was Jesus demonstrating that he was forgiven for betraying him. Three times he betrayed. and three times he was told - he was forgiven and loved.  I think there are other explanations that account for the rock. It may refer to Peter, it may refer to Jesus, it may refer to the gospel, which makes the best sense.  Again thanks for your response. It's nice to see someone articulating their faith in a positive and well reasoned manner. 



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No problem. It's my pleasure! The one piece of advice I'd give is that you never know the depths of someone no matter how they may appear. A relationship that seems valid and fruitful may be invalid and destructive.

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Paul’s Letter to the Romans wasn’t written to endorse or clarify papal authority—it’s a theological treatise addressing salvation, faith, and unity among Jewish and Gentile believers. The fact that he doesn’t explicitly cite Peter’s role in Rome isn’t surprising; it simply wasn’t the epistle’s main aim. Early Christian writings often focus on immediate doctrinal or pastoral concerns rather than systematically outlining every aspect of ecclesial structure. Paul’s and James’s challenges to Peter (Galatians 2:11–14 and Acts 15) don’t negate the Catholic understanding of Petrine primacy. Catholics distinguish between Peter’s personal conduct—which, like any pope or bishop, could be open to fraternal correction—and his unique authority when definitively teaching or guiding the Church. During the Council of Jerusalem (Acts 15), Peter does in fact speak decisively about including Gentiles without imposing full Mosaic law, and James, the local overseer in Jerusalem, effectively ratifies Peter’s conclusion for the assembly. From a Catholic perspective, this episode illustrates that Peter, while able to err personally, was still the leading voice in resolving doctrinal disputes.

While it’s possible to read “rock” (Matthew 16:18) in various ways (e.g., the gospel itself or Christ as the ultimate cornerstone), Catholic tradition has long seen Jesus’ direct address—“You are Peter, and on this rock…”—as conferring a special pastoral role on Peter. His subsequent commission to “feed my sheep” (John 21:17) signifies more than private forgiveness; it entrusts him with caring for the entire flock. Thus, even allowing for historical nuance and the humanity of the apostles, Catholics hold that Peter’s office has continued in his successors as a visible sign of unity for the universal Church.


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If Jesus claimed that only dead Jews could forgive sins using himself as an example. Then the Holocaust was totally justified.
if/then logic isn't [logical], because the 'if' statement is virtually always false as given, and, therefore, cannot justify the 'then' statement, unless 'if' is changed.
Example: if wishes were fishes, [then I would be... [whatever I claim I would be, but I'm currently not]
I'm not familiar with Christ saying only the dead can forgive [Jews, or otherwise], but I'm very familiar with a repeating theme of our necessity to forgive others, and to do so repeatedly. We're not dead, nor were those Christ enjoined to forgive others.  I did a search for the statement you made as I quoted above, and find no  N.T. reference that Jesus said that. However, it occurs to me that when Jesus died, were you implying that he could still forgive? Let's recall that he rose on the third day, presumably a Sunday following his Friday crucifixion; hence the typical Sunday worship of Christians as opposed to Friday sundown -Saturday sundown as the Judaic Sabbath.
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I'm not familiar with Christ saying only the dead can forgive [Jews, or otherwise], but I'm very familiar with a repeating theme of our necessity to forgive others, and to do so repeatedly

Does the Bible say Jesus died for everyone's sins?
He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world” (1 John 2:1-2). John's language here is unmistakable.

If you believe Jesus a Jew died for your sins and the Bible tells us the Jews were Gods chosen people. Then we know Gods mission for the Jews. Like Jesus to die for our sins. Therefore as Gods chosen people dead Jews can forgive sins.
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Yes, the Bible tells us in very clear language that Jesus died for us, but also resurrected for us. All of us.
But God's chosen were not just Jews, but the whole of the House of Israel - all twelve tribes, not just one of them; Judah. The other tribes are among us, but they mostly have no idea of their heritage and ancestry. They will, one day, have the knowledge, and all will, on that day of known reunion, be joyful.
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There are only male priests in Catholicism. On the other hand, other denomations (such as some Protestants) have women priests, for example.



You keep missing the questionS ??>>>   So this Father/Mother  isn't Catholic Priest  then? 

Non-binary bisexual Catholic priest wants you to know people of all genders are created in God’s image

Reverend Kori Pacyniak  who identifies as trans, bisexual and non-binary – explained they were raised Catholic but grew disillusioned with the Vatican’s stances on sexuality and women.


You keep missing the questionS ??>>>   And  these women are  not Catholic Priests either? 

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First, from the official Roman Catholic perspective, any woman or non-binary individual claiming ordination as a Catholic priest is not recognized as a valid priest. The Vatican understands Holy Orders to be reserved exclusively to men, and numerous official statements (most notably *Ordinatio Sacerdotalis* by Pope John Paul II) reaffirm that the Church does not consider itself authorized to change this tradition. Therefore, organizations like “Roman Catholic Womenpriests” or individuals who identify as Catholic priests outside the Church’s established norms are not regarded by Rome as holding legitimate priestly ministry—even if they invoke apostolic succession or use a Catholic-style liturgy.

Second, it’s true that groups in the “Independent Catholic” or “Old Catholic” sphere sometimes use Catholic elements, including sacramental rites, while ordaining women or non-binary individuals. However, being in full communion with the pope is integral to recognized ministry in the Roman Catholic Church. A break with that communion—such as ordaining women against Church teaching—means official Rome considers the ordinations invalid, and those involved are effectively outside the visible structure of the Catholic Church. Hence, references to “Father/Mother” or “non-binary priest” in this context do not alter the Vatican’s stance. In short, while these individuals may refer to themselves as Catholic clergy, the Holy See does not acknowledge them as such.

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So have any of these lesbians, Trans and non binary women "priests" been excommunicated?
What has been the challenge from the Synod?
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Under a 2007 decree from the Vatican’s Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, both the bishop who attempts to ordain a woman and the woman who seeks ordination incur latae sententiae (automatic) excommunication. That ruling applies regardless of sexual orientation or gender identity. In other words, if these “Roman Catholic Womenpriests” or individuals identifying as non-binary were once in full communion with the Catholic Church and then attempted ordination against Church teaching, they would be considered—by their own action—to have excommunicated themselves. There’s generally no need for a separate, formal decree in each individual case; the penalty is automatic.

The recent Synod on Synodality has not altered or rescinded any teaching on the priesthood. While it has welcomed wide-ranging dialogue on women’s roles in the Church, pastoral care for LGBTQ+ Catholics, and other matters, the official stance on Holy Orders remains unchanged: the Catholic Church holds that it has no authority to ordain women, and that this teaching is definitive. Consequently, these ordinations—no matter how they are described—are not recognized by Rome, and those who participate are viewed as separated from the Church’s sacramental ministry.
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I'm not familiar with Christ saying only the dead can forgive [Jews, or otherwise], but I'm very familiar with a repeating theme of our necessity to forgive others, and to do so repeatedly

Does the Bible say Jesus died for everyone's sins?
He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world” (1 John 2:1-2). John's language here is unmistakable.

If you believe Jesus a Jew died for your sins and the Bible tells us the Jews were Gods chosen people. Then we know Gods mission for the Jews. Like Jesus to die for our sins. Therefore as Gods chosen people dead Jews can forgive sins.
Luke 5:21
The Jewish teachers of the law and the Pharisees thought to themselves, “Who is this man? He is saying things that are against God! Only God can forgive sins.”.

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Under a 2007 decree from the Vatican’s Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, both the bishop who attempts to ordain a woman and the woman who seeks ordination incur latae sententiae (automatic) excommunication. 

So in reality, nothing has actually been been done. No action taken and no protestations from the Pope or his Bishops.
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Yes, the Bible tells us in very clear language that Jesus died for us, but also resurrected for us. All of us.
But God's chosen were not just Jews, but the whole of the House of Israel - all twelve tribes, not just one of them; Judah. The other tribes are among us, but they mostly have no idea of their heritage and ancestry. They will, one day, have the knowledge, and all will, on that day of known reunion, be joyful.

Human sacrifice was not part of the commandments from God.
In Jeremiah 19:4-6, Gd tells us that human sacrifice is so horrible a concept to Him, that it did not even come into His mind to demand it from His creation.

It was not a known practice to allow someone to die for the sins of others.Even the disciples did not know why Jesus had to die.

Why was Jesus' death hidden from the disciples?
The disciples failed to comprehend Jesus' explicit and repeated predictions of his coming crucifixion and resurrection because, even while he was revealing it to them, it was being “hidden from them” by the Lord Himself. And only the Lord could remove that incomprehension — which is exactly what Luke says happened.

All SACRIFICED animals had to be slaughtered by a priest, at the Temple (and prior to that, at the sanctuary), and that animal was treated differently - parts were burnt, parts went to the priests and levites, and the rest was returned to whoever brought it.

The Bible tells us Jesus was crucified for blasphemy. He was put on trial for his own sins and found guilty. Jesus was not sacrificed in the temple. He was crucified in a public area. The crucifixion was not performed by priests. The Roman guards then crucified Jesus.

John 19:23 23 When the soldiers crucified Jesus, they took his clothes, dividing them into four shares, one for each of them, with the undergarment remaining. This garment was seamless, woven in one piece from top to bottom.

Is Jesus' death a human sacrifice?
In response, God didn't sacrifice Jesus. Rather, Jesus gave up his own life. No one forced Him. He laid down His life willingly, as He made clear speaking about His life: “No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. Jesus admits he took his own life even though he was crucified for blasphemy and sedition.

If Jesus claimed that only dead Jews could forgive sins using himself as an example. Then the Holocaust was totally justified. The world needed more Jews sacrificed for the growing population of Christian sinners.

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For more imformation on the topic and a more scriptural/historical defense of the papacy, see the debate I'm currently participating in: https://www.debateart.com/debates/5931-the-bible-and-early-church-tradition-affirm-the-papacy-as-a-divinely-established-office


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For more imformation on the topic and a more scriptural/historical defense of the papacy, see the debate I'm currently participating in: https://www.debateart.com/debates/5931-the-bible-and-early-church-tradition-affirm-the-papacy-as-a-divinely-established-office
This sacred renaming is not a matter of happenstance but a definitive sign of Peter's foundational role in the establishment of the Church
Jesus proved to be a poor judge of human character by calling Peter the rock and building his church on it.

God's revelation gives Peter “holy joy.”5 Jesus continues, “You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it” (Matt. 16:18). Jesus will build his church on Peter's confession.

Three times, Peter is accused of being a Jesus-follower. Three times, he denies even knowing Jesus, swearing oaths and cursing himself if he is lying. Hearing a rooster, Peter remembers Jesus had said he would deny Him in exactly this way.

Matthew 16:23 
Jesus turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the concerns of God, but merely human.

Galatians 2:11-21 GNT - Paul Rebukes Peter at Antioch
Paul Rebukes Peter at Antioch. 11 But when Peter came to Antioch, I opposed him in public, because he was clearly wrong.

Was Peter present at the crucifixion of Jesus?
That's right, of the twelve disciples that Jesus spent the bulk of His time with during His three year ministry, only John is on Golgotha comforting the mother of our Lord during the crucifixion. All the other disciples forsook the Lord and fled (Matthew 26:56) including Peter after denying Jesus three times.







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I've addressed most of those objections. Give R1 a read.
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Moreover, the incident recorded in Galatians 2:11, where Paul declares, "I opposed him to his face," does not in any way detract from Peter's Primacy. Rather, Paul's stern rebuke was aimed at Peter's inconsistent conduct—a conduct which, given his high authority, risked undermining the freedom from the Old Law that had been granted to those who had turned away from Paganism. Peter, fully aware of this cherished freedom, consistently upheld it.

I've addressed most of those objections. Give R1 a read.
St. Paul
St. Paul is often considered to be the most important person after Jesus in the history of Christianity. His epistles (letters) have had enormous influence on Christian theology, especially on the relationship between God the Father and Jesus, and on the mystical human relationship with the divine.

Peter wrote 2 books 1 Peter and 2 Peter out of the 27 books in the New Testament.

How many books of the Bible did St. Paul write? Of the 27 books in the New Testament, 13 or 14 (an East-West difference) are traditionally attributed.

Jesus appeared as a vision only to Paul after his death.

Christianity is based on the Pauline doctrine.

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Read R1, go to the section "PROOF FROM TRADITION" and read the second paragraph.
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Read R1, go to the section "PROOF FROM TRADITION" and read the second paragraph.
Just give me the link.
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Paul is often considered to be the most important person after Jesus in the history of Christianity. His epistles (letters) have had enormous influence on Christian theology, especially on the relationship between God the Father and Jesus, and on the mystical human relationship with the divine.

Who was more important, Peter or Paul?
Both Peter and Paul were highly significant in promoting the teachings of their Master. As the only real theologian of the apostolic group, Paul developed a fuller expression of Jesus' teaching and there is a body of opinion that Christianity may have taken a different form without the preaching and letters of Paul.

Who was most responsible for spreading Christianity?
Paul and the inclusion of Gentiles
Paul was responsible for bringing Christianity to Ephesus, Corinth, Philippi, and Thessalonica.

Is Paul more influential than Jesus?
Paul is often considered to be the most important person after Jesus in the history of Christianity. His epistles (letters) have had enormous influence on Christian theology, especially on the relationship between God the Father and Jesus, and on the mystical human relationship with the divine.

Is Paul the true founder of Christianity?
Was Paul the Founder of Christianity? Or Was it Mary, Peter ...
And this is what Paul preached, not what Jesus preached.

Christianity is about believing in his death and resurrection for salvation. And since, in this view, it was Paul who first formulated that belief, he is the founder of the Christianity religion (or co-founder).

Which disciple was a coward?
Here's the truth: Peter never forgot the fact that he denied Jesus. That cowardly act was something that he could never take back.