Inheritance Cycle Mafia DP4

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A lot of this turns on whether or not Mharman's defense of WyIted on Day 2 came from a place of TMI or not. He came in defending WyIted pretty much instantly there...

Granted, so did I. Although this:

I just don’t think there’s any reason to say Wylted’s scum, not even in the slightest.
Was much stronger than what I was saying.

My eyes are starting to hurt staring at this website. I'm going to sleep and come back to this in the morning. Right now, I'm in a position of wanting to lynch ADOL, but I'm not quite ready to commit to that.
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@ADreamOfLiberty
[whiteflame] There’s no priority from me aside from my statement that you come off as the clearer lynch.
Well I'm not going to vote to lynch myself so there is no action to take on that. Just sit around and then lose.
That's not the point. You intentionally wrote that post to make it seem like Mharman was the preferred lynch for me, which he isn't, framing it as though that was the natural conclusion to take from Austin and my reads. Obviously, you would prefer we lynch anyone else, but since my argument wasn't "you should just vote yourself," this is a particularly strange response.

In that case, at this moment, I would side with Whiteflame and Cerulean for admittedly weak reasons. If you want to put a number to it, it would be like 51% chance Mharmen is scum because I think the role/theme assignment is weirder.
I'm trying to parse this. Walk me through it because I don't think I've seen you walk through the "role/theme assignment" justification for lynching Mharman. Your initial justification for VTLing him last game was "I've got nothing, but maybe this will convince Whiteflame we aren't a scum team," and your justification this DP up to this point has been focused on "distrust" between you, Austin and Mharman, which you claimed was the cause of you all collectively refusing to go after us (doubly weird since Mharman has been more than willing to sus us) with the explicit aim of ensuring that we "can't claim that the scum team is ADOL/Mharmen". So yes, I'd like to know where your sus comes from. Hell, it's notable that you haven't come up with a reason to sus Austin at all beyond PoE.

The only justification I've seen for deciding not to sus Cerulean and I that I can find in any of your posts is "It would be a long con indeed if they were scum", which parrots my argument. Is that what you meant by "admittedly weak reasons"?

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@Cerulean
My eyes are starting to hurt staring at this website. I'm going to sleep and come back to this in the morning. Right now, I'm in a position of wanting to lynch ADOL, but I'm not quite ready to commit to that.
I think ADOL is the right choice, but there's no harm in waiting. I'm fine giving him a chance to respond to both what Austin and I have said. From where I'm sitting, while I can see how Austin might be his partner, I just don't think it's as likely as Mharman. I understand the uncertainty regarding Austin, but there's a lot more rubbing me the wrong way about Mharman.
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If I am scum I don't defend Wylted as hard as I did. He was an easy mislynch for someone in my position. I could've flipped on him when Lunatic was cleared, I could've let Lunatic "convince" me over the course of the DP, or I could've voted him at the end just to have a lynch. I didn't.

Wylted was town and it was obvious, I still don't understand why yall wanted to lynch an-unCC'd cop who just cleared someone and made one of the dumbest possible decisions in targeting Lunatic if he was scum. Combine that with how he got mislynched for not SOPing miller last game, and to me it seemed completely natural that he would float the idea of claiming his role (and claim it after only one person asked) if he felt it even had the slightest amount of negative utility.

Because of how obviously town Wylted was, Wylted's mislynch is the type of lynch that only happens if scum is hard pushing for it. I refuse to believe most townies alive would actually go for it if the scum team wasn't looking to convince them. A few might, but I really think most won't.

I've done a lot of thinking on this and I'm thinking it's ADOL and Austin. I think both scum have to be on that wagon, and Cerulean and Whiteflame's behavior has more town explanations than the former two- particularly in ADOL's case in which I essentially have to derp clear him in a case where I think his behavior is more likely noob scum. However, I am not decided on who to lynch first since I think the odds of Cerulean buddying Whiteflame here are extremely low, almost to the point of impossibility. It really comes down to who I think has the stronger PR, and I haven't given that much thought yet.

I'll try to force myself to be more in-depth on this in the morning, but right now, I'm going to sleep. No promises, but I will try.
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Who has the stronger PR between Austin and ADOL that is. I’d say I’m at 60-40 in favor of ADOL rn. I don’t know what their characters are for sure, but if they’re not fake claiming characters, Arya does sound stronger than Oromis I think.